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Message: <blockquote data-quote="avin" data-source="post: 4752795" data-attributes="member: 6762">Good point.I dare to say that DiTerlizzi is cartoon the same way Neil Gaiman's Sandman is a comic book. The difference between Planescape and early 4E is big. The tone in Planescape is darker and, even being cartoonish there was more anatomy and perspective there than some DMG images (look the picture of the party entering a goblin cave or the one in a village). Except for Modrons DiTerlizzi art never look silly like some MM4E monsters, what's that boneclaw smile? Should I mention some of the new miniatures, such as War Devil? DiTerlizzi never reminded me of Scooby Doo like 4E troglodites do.I have seen lots of people defending 4E art and I just don't get it. I DM for three different 4E groups ATM, 13 different people. Most of them think 4E is the best edition ever but none like its art. I'm not saying that all art is bad. I like 4E demons, for example, far more than 3E. The new Marilith is perfect. And the art I have seen lately is getting better <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>