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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zimri" data-source="post: 1564791" data-attributes="member: 15991">I agreed that you don't kill an orc that you sneak up on either. If it has it's back to you and has not engaged in combat, hasn't even noticed your presence you make it notice by warning it to stop, applying subdual damage or grabbing it.A dragon actively in combat with something is a much more clear and present danger to life and limb than the perp in this scenario was, heck a dragon in it's natural form with its' "wand" out is more of a clear and present danger than this perp was.Re sneaking, It was a paladin that had just arrived in town, still had his sword with him and I would assume his armour as well. He managed to tail the perp to the room (he says he followed him) While carrying his sword and stood silently there while the perp laid bare himself and his plan. You are saying that doesn't constitute sneaking ?</blockquote>