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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zimri" data-source="post: 1566206" data-attributes="member: 15991">The Paladin needs to be honorable because society ESPESCIALLY in a grim and gritty campaign needs to see that there are HEROES out there standing for them. That not everyone is out to be self-serving and making back room deals.The Paladin needs to hold himself to a higher standard and not take the easy way out.No question about it there. Sir Bruce (from the example given) KNEW he was caught and Knew justice was going to come to him if he didn't get away and he umm didn't. Had the Paladin in question flung the evil rapist from the room walked up to the prone villian and pronounced justice upon him to his face I would be on the other side of the argument. Striking an unarmed foe from behind without warning, in secret is NOT HONORABLE. A paladin doesn't need to accept surrenders in my opinion. "Armed or not you will gain no quarter from the justice My Lord and I have passed villian" is completely acceptable.Not so much a remote chance if the un-noticed paladin grabs him and extricates the perpetrator from the vicinity of the girl. Remember the perp didn't even know he was there. The paladin had surprise on his side. No more harm comes to the girl. Espescially not the "harm" of being splattered by the torrents of her rapists blood as his head falls into her lap and his eyes stare up at hers.Right and as such is held by himself, his church, his deity, his companions, and society as a whole to a stricter moral, ethicl and philosophical standard. We can't have paladins acting in secret and dispensing back room justice. That is simply not honorable.</blockquote>

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