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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Numion" data-source="post: 1567546" data-attributes="member: 124">Huh, investigating whether the man was controlled to hold out his wang in front of an already raped girl? Yeah .. um, let's say we do that. But if thats what the Paladin is required to do in a simple case like this, I'd hate to see what is required of him in more dangerous and subtle situations. But I see no need to give the man to authorities which aren't as trusthworthy as the Paladin to carry out what needs to be done.What need is there for defense when the Paladin saw him in-action? Are you saying that the Paladin should trust the man more than his own eyes? And consequently, should the Paladin extend that courtesy to all evildoers he encounters .. thats what lawfulness is too - consistent actions. Is the next Red Dragon going to be put to trial of peers? In my stanrdards safer for the innocent is the better way. Knocking him out would require the Paladin to take a -4, which is most of his BAB at that level. Not so overwhelming for the Paladin anymore. I guess it's good to use the evil-radar(tm) as much as possible, but are you going to stand there for a couple of rounds concentrating when evil is about to happen? I would not.Besides, a Paladin shouldn't let the remote possibilities hamstring his ability to act efficiently. I'd rather use Evil-Radar to find new evil rather than to waste time from acting against already identified evildoers.Again, you seem to think that this is indeed a situation which the Paladin should approach like a puzzle. "Activate evil-radar, maybe knock out". Thats all good, and I bet the DM intended that too, but in reality there was an innocent about to be harmed. At that point I'd say it's not outside the Paladins Code of Conduct to vanquish the evil swiftly, even if you should (god forbid) sidestep the DMs supposed moral puzzle.If it happened in a dungeon with an Orc standing there no questions would've been asked. I don't think Paladins code encourages double standards for different sentient races. I might be wrong on that though. Any situation where there's not an innocent child in the room.</blockquote>

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