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My Paladin killed a child molester (and now my DM wants to take away my powers!)
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<blockquote data-quote="D+1" data-source="post: 1570510" data-attributes="member: 13654"><p>First, the abuses being brought up are not comparable to child rape.</p><p>Second, the President doesn't walk around with a sword (or gun) nor does he have the <em>obligation</em> to act as an avenger whereas a paladin does.</p><p>AFAIK it is pure speculation as to whether this was in direct retaliation. More likely is it's just militant, fascist, Islamic terrorists doing what they do.</p><p>We were not given any information that the legal code within the city had any such requirement. In the absence of that it is safe to assume that the paladin is not just allowed, but <em>obligated</em> to act as his morals and code direct him. It is POSSIBLE that his morals and code would have been more specific than the PH and directed him to merely arrest and turn him over to OTHER authorities, but again, in the absence of such information it is perfectly reasonable that the paladin exercises his divine-associated authority to pass instant judgement and dispense immediate lethal punishment.</p><p></p><p>That much is pretty much true. Even if the DM was wrong (and he was) he informed the player of his perspective and potential penalties for proceeding. Even so, it's pretty much just a formality to regain Paladin status at that point as it was not an evil act.</p><p></p><p>Such as child rapists deserve no quarter and death as soon as possible? I see no problem there.</p><p></p><p>Assume for a moment the city has a law stating that convicted child rapists are not to be killed but merely incarcerated for a while. Not likely, but... In such a case if the paladins personal and religious beliefs are that child rapists MUST be killed then the secular law is not a "legitimate authority" as far as that paladin is concerned. He might STILL turn the rapist over but he might not.</p><p></p><p>Now assume that the city would execute the rapist. The paladins crime is sort of just a procedural violation. All he did was improperly speed up the process of what was undoubtedly going to happen anyway. That STILL leaves open the question of whether the paladins greater obligation is to secular legal authority or his own code and moral judgement. The answer is that his OWN CODE AND MORALS take precedence. They may not DEMAND the death of the rapist, but they most certainly can, regardless of what local law demands.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="D+1, post: 1570510, member: 13654"] First, the abuses being brought up are not comparable to child rape. Second, the President doesn't walk around with a sword (or gun) nor does he have the [i]obligation[/i] to act as an avenger whereas a paladin does. AFAIK it is pure speculation as to whether this was in direct retaliation. More likely is it's just militant, fascist, Islamic terrorists doing what they do. We were not given any information that the legal code within the city had any such requirement. In the absence of that it is safe to assume that the paladin is not just allowed, but [i]obligated[/i] to act as his morals and code direct him. It is POSSIBLE that his morals and code would have been more specific than the PH and directed him to merely arrest and turn him over to OTHER authorities, but again, in the absence of such information it is perfectly reasonable that the paladin exercises his divine-associated authority to pass instant judgement and dispense immediate lethal punishment. That much is pretty much true. Even if the DM was wrong (and he was) he informed the player of his perspective and potential penalties for proceeding. Even so, it's pretty much just a formality to regain Paladin status at that point as it was not an evil act. Such as child rapists deserve no quarter and death as soon as possible? I see no problem there. Assume for a moment the city has a law stating that convicted child rapists are not to be killed but merely incarcerated for a while. Not likely, but... In such a case if the paladins personal and religious beliefs are that child rapists MUST be killed then the secular law is not a "legitimate authority" as far as that paladin is concerned. He might STILL turn the rapist over but he might not. Now assume that the city would execute the rapist. The paladins crime is sort of just a procedural violation. All he did was improperly speed up the process of what was undoubtedly going to happen anyway. That STILL leaves open the question of whether the paladins greater obligation is to secular legal authority or his own code and moral judgement. The answer is that his OWN CODE AND MORALS take precedence. They may not DEMAND the death of the rapist, but they most certainly can, regardless of what local law demands. [/QUOTE]
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