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My Paladin killed a child molester (and now my DM wants to take away my powers!)
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<blockquote data-quote="Agemegos" data-source="post: 1571334" data-attributes="member: 18377"><p>Then I guess that when your puppy piddled in the house you didn't use the most effective way to make sure that he would not do it again. You limited yourself to reasonable means and appropriate force. And I guess that when as a security guard your duties required you to make someone stop doing something that you took into account (when choosing your means of doing so) not only what was effective but also what was appropriate and necessary.</p><p></p><p>I agree that killing the rapist was the most <em>effective</em> way of making hiim stop. But then, going on to kill everyone in the tavern would have been a very effective way of making sure that any of them who were complicit in the rape or any other crime would stop that. The point is that you can't use its effectiveness as the only criterion for judging whether to use lethal force. You didn't shoot lots of people when you were a security guard, You didn't housebreak the puppy with a shotgun. So in fact you don't treat its effectiveness as a sufficient justification of the use of lethal force.</p><p></p><p>Sorry about the wink. It was supposed to indicate that the meaning of the material marked was not literal. (And to think I have been told the smileys remove the ambiguity of indirect statement.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Agemegos, post: 1571334, member: 18377"] Then I guess that when your puppy piddled in the house you didn't use the most effective way to make sure that he would not do it again. You limited yourself to reasonable means and appropriate force. And I guess that when as a security guard your duties required you to make someone stop doing something that you took into account (when choosing your means of doing so) not only what was effective but also what was appropriate and necessary. I agree that killing the rapist was the most [i]effective[/i] way of making hiim stop. But then, going on to kill everyone in the tavern would have been a very effective way of making sure that any of them who were complicit in the rape or any other crime would stop that. The point is that you can't use its effectiveness as the only criterion for judging whether to use lethal force. You didn't shoot lots of people when you were a security guard, You didn't housebreak the puppy with a shotgun. So in fact you don't treat its effectiveness as a sufficient justification of the use of lethal force. Sorry about the wink. It was supposed to indicate that the meaning of the material marked was not literal. (And to think I have been told the smileys remove the ambiguity of indirect statement.) [/QUOTE]
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