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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Crimster" data-source="post: 78591" data-attributes="member: 2511">I am going to have to disagree with you, Epametheus - despite the fact you have a wonderful face of tentacles.Whether charisma is a dump stat or not purely dependent on the campaign itself.  It's been said above, many times - a game with little or unimportant social interactions means charisma is relatively worthless, but the opposite is true as well.Diplomacy worthless?  Hardly.  In my games, if the player (not the character) can talk the talk - it helps.  I might give them a bonus to the diplomacy roll.  Having it any other way penalizes players' who do not have golden tongues, and sticks them with playing action-oriented fighters for the rest of their roleplaying life - something they may not want to do - but have to, because they can never play a diplomat in your game.The Crimster</blockquote>