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<blockquote data-quote="guachi" data-source="post: 7511740" data-attributes="member: 6785802"><p>A) The game provides guidelines in 5e but it seems that in 3e there were such extensive examples and it didn't work as well as it was hoped. So they changed it.</p><p></p><p>B) My experience, both in real life and online, is that your examples don't hold. Sorcerers are fantastic buffers with twin spell. That you don't see it is the fault of the PCs you play with.</p><p></p><p>Fighters can fight with any weapons well. That you only weapon/shield or two-handed sword isn't the fault of the game it's the players you play with. Fighters can two-weapon fight, use bows, crossbows, or polearms with the best of them.</p><p></p><p>C) I don't miss the "build" sub-game whatsoever. While it's fun to fantasize about what your PC can be if I really wanted to do that I'd just play a PC game as it's much better at the mechanical fiddly bits.</p><p></p><p>D) I can see this as a downside. But since I'm storytelling with people it's about what you'd expect, no?</p><p></p><p>E) There is no universe where a 3rd level fighter (say, a Battlemaster) should be worse than a 1st level Rogue. The fighter can swing twice with two-weapon fighting just like a rogue can. Plus, the fighter will get stat bonus to the second attack. With a short sword that's 2d6+6 potential damage. The rogue is 3d6+3 potential damage, or only 0.5 higher. And that doesn't account for Action Surge or any of the Battlemasters maneuvers.</p><p></p><p>F) I don't see why you wouldn't have any idea. Your DM should give you some idea of how hard things are. But in any event your comments boil down to "the DM is bad".</p><p></p><p>G) You can get better at all skills by increasing your ability scores, which all PCs can do. You can use the Skilled feat. Many subclasses get skills as they level. It's the opposite of "almost impossibly" difficult.</p><p></p><p>H) I don't like AL, either. It's unfortunate as it's potentially a great place to meet players, though complaints a) (no games to find) and c) (paying $5) have basically nothing to do with the game itself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="guachi, post: 7511740, member: 6785802"] A) The game provides guidelines in 5e but it seems that in 3e there were such extensive examples and it didn't work as well as it was hoped. So they changed it. B) My experience, both in real life and online, is that your examples don't hold. Sorcerers are fantastic buffers with twin spell. That you don't see it is the fault of the PCs you play with. Fighters can fight with any weapons well. That you only weapon/shield or two-handed sword isn't the fault of the game it's the players you play with. Fighters can two-weapon fight, use bows, crossbows, or polearms with the best of them. C) I don't miss the "build" sub-game whatsoever. While it's fun to fantasize about what your PC can be if I really wanted to do that I'd just play a PC game as it's much better at the mechanical fiddly bits. D) I can see this as a downside. But since I'm storytelling with people it's about what you'd expect, no? E) There is no universe where a 3rd level fighter (say, a Battlemaster) should be worse than a 1st level Rogue. The fighter can swing twice with two-weapon fighting just like a rogue can. Plus, the fighter will get stat bonus to the second attack. With a short sword that's 2d6+6 potential damage. The rogue is 3d6+3 potential damage, or only 0.5 higher. And that doesn't account for Action Surge or any of the Battlemasters maneuvers. F) I don't see why you wouldn't have any idea. Your DM should give you some idea of how hard things are. But in any event your comments boil down to "the DM is bad". G) You can get better at all skills by increasing your ability scores, which all PCs can do. You can use the Skilled feat. Many subclasses get skills as they level. It's the opposite of "almost impossibly" difficult. H) I don't like AL, either. It's unfortunate as it's potentially a great place to meet players, though complaints a) (no games to find) and c) (paying $5) have basically nothing to do with the game itself. [/QUOTE]
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