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<blockquote data-quote="phloog" data-source="post: 4676132" data-attributes="member: 59219"><p>That's the problem with what they're doing...it doesn't give ME any reason to go to Pathfinder. It's the wrong solution to several problems, some of which people can disagree about whether they NEED fixing.</p><p> </p><p>People who were heavily invested (time AND $$$$$) into 3.5 were reluctant to toss that all out and go 4e. Pathfinder doesn't help there because for all their talk of BC, it ISN'T really that backwards compatible.</p><p> </p><p>I just still don't get their marketing angle:</p><p> </p><p>"Not willing to make a radical change in your D&D game by moving to 4E? Then switch to Pathfinder, and make a radical-but-perhaps-somewhat less so change to your D&D game!"</p><p> </p><p>The argument for me isn't whether or not the new rules thrown in by Paizo are inherently better, but that they are DIFFERENT enough as to constitute a new game system, and invalidate a rather enormous number of books I've bought over the years.</p><p> </p><p>Honestly...I do not like what I've seen of 4e, but if I'm going to make that big a shift in my game, it would probably be to go all the way 4e and an 'official' and massively-popular product and not to PF. The differences PF to 3.5 to me are NOT small.</p><p> </p><p>If Paizo wanted to keep 'core books in print', they could just print their own OGL Player's Handbook...but for all the good will they seem to get, it sure seems to me like the MAIN reason for Pathfinder is NOT to keep 3.5 style rules in print, but to make a product sufficiently different from 3.5 to allow Paizo to own/control it. Not in terms of violating OGL concepts, but still.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="phloog, post: 4676132, member: 59219"] That's the problem with what they're doing...it doesn't give ME any reason to go to Pathfinder. It's the wrong solution to several problems, some of which people can disagree about whether they NEED fixing. People who were heavily invested (time AND $$$$$) into 3.5 were reluctant to toss that all out and go 4e. Pathfinder doesn't help there because for all their talk of BC, it ISN'T really that backwards compatible. I just still don't get their marketing angle: "Not willing to make a radical change in your D&D game by moving to 4E? Then switch to Pathfinder, and make a radical-but-perhaps-somewhat less so change to your D&D game!" The argument for me isn't whether or not the new rules thrown in by Paizo are inherently better, but that they are DIFFERENT enough as to constitute a new game system, and invalidate a rather enormous number of books I've bought over the years. Honestly...I do not like what I've seen of 4e, but if I'm going to make that big a shift in my game, it would probably be to go all the way 4e and an 'official' and massively-popular product and not to PF. The differences PF to 3.5 to me are NOT small. If Paizo wanted to keep 'core books in print', they could just print their own OGL Player's Handbook...but for all the good will they seem to get, it sure seems to me like the MAIN reason for Pathfinder is NOT to keep 3.5 style rules in print, but to make a product sufficiently different from 3.5 to allow Paizo to own/control it. Not in terms of violating OGL concepts, but still. [/QUOTE]
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