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<blockquote data-quote="der_kluge" data-source="post: 7024695" data-attributes="member: 945">Hmm. This is a long story, but the tl;dr is that my player basically wants a kind of &quot;infuser&quot; class. And I'm not sure what to tell her.So, the longer version is, we started with the UA Artificer, which sucks. For my thoughts on that, see also the UA Artificer thread. For my own peace of mind, I'm revising that class. I'll upload it when I'm done. Mine is a slightly low magic setting, but the artificer can work, and it's the closest thing the party has to a arcane caster, so she's been helpful so far. But after a discussion at the end of the last game, she's decided that what she really wants is some sort of &quot;infuser&quot; (my word, not hers), rather than an artificer.&nbsp; I explained to her what I was doing with my class, and she's thinking in way different terms. Her email to me: The idea for the Infuser came from Mystic Eye Games Artificer's Handbook, which has an Artificer Prestige class, and an Infuser PrC. The latter is a bit more like a warlock in flavor, I think. Essentially, it allows the character to put spells into items.&nbsp; I told her that I couldn't see the class being any more than a kind of slave in service to a despotic king, or something like that. It's great that she wants to be helpful, but after passing out all of her powers to other people, she won't actually have anything to do during the BBEG fight, or whatever. Except the player doesn't actually want spell slots. Instead she just wants access to every spell so that she can infuse it into something else.To which I replied that it's almost sounding a bit like an Al-Qadim Sha'ir (good thing I own that handbook!), which I'll have to look up to see if it could be translated to 5th edition. Flavorwise, that's a LOT closer to Warlock, than Artificer, and certainly suggests a charisma-based style of casting rather than Int.But part me suggests I should just tell her to stop, and play a wizard. lolAny ideas?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="der_kluge, post: 7024695, member: 945"] Hmm. This is a long story, but the tl;dr is that my player basically wants a kind of "infuser" class. And I'm not sure what to tell her. So, the longer version is, we started with the UA Artificer, which sucks. For my thoughts on that, see also the UA Artificer thread. For my own peace of mind, I'm revising that class. I'll upload it when I'm done. Mine is a slightly low magic setting, but the artificer can work, and it's the closest thing the party has to a arcane caster, so she's been helpful so far. But after a discussion at the end of the last game, she's decided that what she really wants is some sort of "infuser" (my word, not hers), rather than an artificer. I explained to her what I was doing with my class, and she's thinking in way different terms. Her email to me: The idea for the Infuser came from Mystic Eye Games Artificer's Handbook, which has an Artificer Prestige class, and an Infuser PrC. The latter is a bit more like a warlock in flavor, I think. Essentially, it allows the character to put spells into items. I told her that I couldn't see the class being any more than a kind of slave in service to a despotic king, or something like that. It's great that she wants to be helpful, but after passing out all of her powers to other people, she won't actually have anything to do during the BBEG fight, or whatever. Except the player doesn't actually want spell slots. Instead she just wants access to every spell so that she can infuse it into something else. To which I replied that it's almost sounding a bit like an Al-Qadim Sha'ir (good thing I own that handbook!), which I'll have to look up to see if it could be translated to 5th edition. Flavorwise, that's a LOT closer to Warlock, than Artificer, and certainly suggests a charisma-based style of casting rather than Int. But part me suggests I should just tell her to stop, and play a wizard. lol Any ideas? [/QUOTE]

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