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<blockquote data-quote="quetzyl" data-source="post: 2640187" data-attributes="member: 31844">Sounds fair if.....As I understand the death attack rules, the assassin has to succeed on his attack roll, and then the target gets a fort save. Both those rolls have a chance to fail, so this isn't an unavoidable instant death. Basically I as a player would find this sort of thing fairly reasonable provided everything was rolled in the open, and provided the GM had asked me where I was sitting and what defensive spells I had up. What would annoy me would be the GM going &quot;So, as you sit relaxing, with your back to the window....&quot;, without giving me a chance to say &quot;Despite the appearance of safety, my character remains hiding in the shadows in the corner of the bar.&quot; Furthermore, unless the assassin has improved invisiblity, the rest of the party will be able to see him if they manage to act before he does and rush to the window, so they may well manage to take him down. I would rule that the assassin got suprise, so after the shot everyone would roll initiative. If the assassin wins he can turn invisible with no one any the wiser, but if a PC wins they should have a chance to see him. Also, as a GM if I am planning something unpleasant and lethal it is worth taking extra care to make sure none of the PC's have any special powers or high skills that could be relevant. Finally, note that the spot check to be aware of an invisible creature within 30' is only DC 20+distance modifier, or 20+hide check if he is hiding as well, which the character may well make since he should get 3 attempts while the assassin lines him up.Cheers,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; quetzyl</blockquote>

[QUOTE="quetzyl, post: 2640187, member: 31844"] [b]Sounds fair if.....[/b] As I understand the death attack rules, the assassin has to succeed on his attack roll, and then the target gets a fort save. Both those rolls have a chance to fail, so this isn't an unavoidable instant death. Basically I as a player would find this sort of thing fairly reasonable provided everything was rolled in the open, and provided the GM had asked me where I was sitting and what defensive spells I had up. What would annoy me would be the GM going "So, as you sit relaxing, with your back to the window....", without giving me a chance to say "Despite the appearance of safety, my character remains hiding in the shadows in the corner of the bar." Furthermore, unless the assassin has improved invisiblity, the rest of the party will be able to see him if they manage to act before he does and rush to the window, so they may well manage to take him down. I would rule that the assassin got suprise, so after the shot everyone would roll initiative. If the assassin wins he can turn invisible with no one any the wiser, but if a PC wins they should have a chance to see him. Also, as a GM if I am planning something unpleasant and lethal it is worth taking extra care to make sure none of the PC's have any special powers or high skills that could be relevant. Finally, note that the spot check to be aware of an invisible creature within 30' is only DC 20+distance modifier, or 20+hide check if he is hiding as well, which the character may well make since he should get 3 attempts while the assassin lines him up. Cheers, quetzyl [/QUOTE]

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