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<blockquote data-quote="DonTadow" data-source="post: 2640927" data-attributes="member: 22622">You seem to be assuming a lot of things in lue of defending this DM vs. Player mentality, which is not the essence of the game.&nbsp; The more I read this post, the more disgusted I am.&nbsp; Its like &quot;Look at the creative ways I can kill pcs without them knowing until their dead &quot;.&nbsp; It's really not an accomplishment.&nbsp; Any DM on this website on any given day without a single rule change can do this creatively at any time.&nbsp;&nbsp; The role of the DM is to be manage the rules and come up with great stories, not sit in your basement thinking of ways to screw pcs.&nbsp; Yes PCs should be gloating whenever they get a chance to outsmart the DM.&nbsp; The DM has infinitive methods, tactics, weapons and environments to throw at the pcs whom are limited to basically whats on their character sheet that they &quot;may&quot; get to change during level up once a month.&nbsp;&nbsp; The DM knows all the players weakeness, strengths, hit die, and stats.&nbsp; Its like defending some 300 lbs who is gloating for putting a major hit on a 80 lb 5th grade pee wee player.&nbsp; It just doesnt work the same way .&nbsp; And then the DM ignores the rules and environment (along with the pcs) to make it work.&nbsp; All a silence spell does is silence the caster, especially if he's shooting from far away.&nbsp; And then theres the weather, where exactly the pcs are sitting and who else is in the inn.&nbsp; I&quot;m betting just about every dm on this site has had a pc death in the last six month but none were as unfun and unfair as this one described.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DonTadow, post: 2640927, member: 22622"] You seem to be assuming a lot of things in lue of defending this DM vs. Player mentality, which is not the essence of the game. The more I read this post, the more disgusted I am. Its like "Look at the creative ways I can kill pcs without them knowing until their dead ". It's really not an accomplishment. Any DM on this website on any given day without a single rule change can do this creatively at any time. The role of the DM is to be manage the rules and come up with great stories, not sit in your basement thinking of ways to screw pcs. Yes PCs should be gloating whenever they get a chance to outsmart the DM. The DM has infinitive methods, tactics, weapons and environments to throw at the pcs whom are limited to basically whats on their character sheet that they "may" get to change during level up once a month. The DM knows all the players weakeness, strengths, hit die, and stats. Its like defending some 300 lbs who is gloating for putting a major hit on a 80 lb 5th grade pee wee player. It just doesnt work the same way . And then the DM ignores the rules and environment (along with the pcs) to make it work. All a silence spell does is silence the caster, especially if he's shooting from far away. And then theres the weather, where exactly the pcs are sitting and who else is in the inn. I"m betting just about every dm on this site has had a pc death in the last six month but none were as unfun and unfair as this one described. [/QUOTE]

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