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<blockquote data-quote="kalil" data-source="post: 6651274" data-attributes="member: 6796368">Sorry, cant really help you. You description of 5e is fairly accurate. It sports a fast combat resolution system that works quite well and a basic mechanic of ability+(proficiency)+d20&gt;DC. Everything else, including things like a functional economy and meaningful downtime activities is left to the DM. The system is clearly intended for DM's that either want a superlight system or likes to tinker with mechanics. If you desire a mechanically &quot;complete&quot; system I dont think 5e is actually designed for you.Regarding the limited character options this is clearly intentional. For good and bad the 5e designers have chosen to reduce the number of options available for character customization by several order of magnitudes compared to 3e/4e/PF. Again; if what you desire is a wealth of options I would not consider 5e to be a good choice for your gaming circle.Personally I am on the fence regarding 5e. I both share several of your gripes, but I also like the simplification of character customization and the emphasis on actual game play it creates. I recommend trying the game a bit more. If it doesn't stick I suggest grabbing the Pathfinder Unchained book and making a new game for yourselves out of the PF core. This sounds like it would be more up your alley.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="kalil, post: 6651274, member: 6796368"] Sorry, cant really help you. You description of 5e is fairly accurate. It sports a fast combat resolution system that works quite well and a basic mechanic of ability+(proficiency)+d20>DC. Everything else, including things like a functional economy and meaningful downtime activities is left to the DM. The system is clearly intended for DM's that either want a superlight system or likes to tinker with mechanics. If you desire a mechanically "complete" system I dont think 5e is actually designed for you. Regarding the limited character options this is clearly intentional. For good and bad the 5e designers have chosen to reduce the number of options available for character customization by several order of magnitudes compared to 3e/4e/PF. Again; if what you desire is a wealth of options I would not consider 5e to be a good choice for your gaming circle. Personally I am on the fence regarding 5e. I both share several of your gripes, but I also like the simplification of character customization and the emphasis on actual game play it creates. I recommend trying the game a bit more. If it doesn't stick I suggest grabbing the Pathfinder Unchained book and making a new game for yourselves out of the PF core. This sounds like it would be more up your alley. [/QUOTE]

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