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<blockquote data-quote="SigmaOne" data-source="post: 6651335" data-attributes="member: 6748799">Can you tell us how much you have actually played 5e with these players, how many campaigns, up to what levels, and over what actual time span? When the player says &quot;I feel like my 4th level character could take on my 12th&quot; are these two actual characters that were played from first level in different campaigns? What characters were they? Have other readers of this thread who've played a bunch of 5e felt like 4th level characters are comparable to 12th level characters in general? In specific instances? It seems crazy to me, but I don't have enough experience with actual play of high level 5e characters to know.I was going to write a lot more, but I erased it, because frankly it would most likely start an internet argument, which for health reasons I'm trying to avoid. (I know.. wtf am I doing on rpg forums then?)&nbsp; I'm really interested in knowing how much your players have actually played 5e before writing what they've written, because I disagree very much with those who've responded that your players seem to understand 5e quite well. What I read from your players reads like the diatribes that were made about the various mechanics during the playtest when people first heard about them but before people started really playing 5e.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="SigmaOne, post: 6651335, member: 6748799"] Can you tell us how much you have actually played 5e with these players, how many campaigns, up to what levels, and over what actual time span? When the player says "I feel like my 4th level character could take on my 12th" are these two actual characters that were played from first level in different campaigns? What characters were they? Have other readers of this thread who've played a bunch of 5e felt like 4th level characters are comparable to 12th level characters in general? In specific instances? It seems crazy to me, but I don't have enough experience with actual play of high level 5e characters to know. I was going to write a lot more, but I erased it, because frankly it would most likely start an internet argument, which for health reasons I'm trying to avoid. (I know.. wtf am I doing on rpg forums then?) I'm really interested in knowing how much your players have actually played 5e before writing what they've written, because I disagree very much with those who've responded that your players seem to understand 5e quite well. What I read from your players reads like the diatribes that were made about the various mechanics during the playtest when people first heard about them but before people started really playing 5e. [/QUOTE]

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