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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jago" data-source="post: 6915516" data-attributes="member: 6855130">I've heard the "Humanity, #&@! Yeah!" bit as a joke many times before (there is, in fact, a hilarious bit somewhere of what other species would think of "terrifying humans" considering all the weird biological aspects of ourselves), but I've honestly never seen it like OP has posited. I've never had someone vehemently state Humanity's "superiority" over other fantasy races, or insisted that things could not be otherwise. Strangely enough, most games I've played in person (especially when it comes to Star Wars) leads to many people choosing anything other than Human, eventually leading to the Pathfinder Game where we only played races out of the Advanced Race Guide because we wanted to be the single most uncommon adventuring party ever.But honestly, the "Humans must rule!" ideal is ... well, to me, not ideal. Most settings, from what I've seen, generally portray Humans as the "Up-And-Comers". We're usually the newest/youngest race and we even get our own Hat to wear (usually something along the lines of like "Ambitious" or "Adventurous"). With that said, it's really odd to hear someone completely abhorrent to the idea of "There were empires before humanity."Like ... Most fantasy and sci-fi works actually rely upon that trope. Look at Mass Effect. Look at Eberron. Half of the fun for portraying humanity in those settings is that we are not the most powerful/ancient/wise/etc.: we're trying to forge our place and show "Hey, we can do things too!"The only time I've ever run something where Humanity was dominant was a very 1800s setting that focused on the fact that we kinda drove all the other races to the fringes of the world or basically to extinction, to the point where Elves and Dwarves were much how we treat them: fantastical creatures that nobody sees. Whether or not they were still around was actually a matter of debate and believing in Elves was treated like believing in a fairy tale or something similarly childish, even though these other races 100% featured in the history of the world. So even with making humanity the all-powerful race, the other races were still featured in the plot and focused in the background, to the point where upon finally meeting an Elf, one of the PCs broke down and cried in emotion at finally being vindicated that yes, they are real.</blockquote>

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