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<blockquote data-quote="BSF" data-source="post: 2103492" data-attributes="member: 13098">Well, Turning is a bit of a EL breaker and hard to figure into a single encounter.&nbsp; If it works, and why wouldn't it with weak zombies, then the zombies effectively become non-issues.&nbsp; It sounds like the LBEG wasn't really prepped for the party either.&nbsp; Why was the fighter able to waltz across the room and arrive where he could attack?&nbsp; So it is bad die rolls with good tactics by the party.&nbsp; As well, you might have relied a little too much on the CR charts.&nbsp; Mind you, this isn't a bad thing to do. Sometimes a challenge falls quickly to a specific group and would have been very difficult for another.&nbsp; *shrug*&nbsp; It happens.&nbsp; What would I do?&nbsp; I would note that low HD undead against my cleric is an opportunity for the Cleric to call down righteous turning wrath on them.&nbsp; Next time, double the zombies so the cleric must use more turning attempts.&nbsp; In the case of the BBEG, make sure the fight takes place on desecrated ground.&nbsp; Keep my low HP magic casters out of single-move range in case I lose init.&nbsp; Also make sure the party can't pull off a charge to get there.&nbsp; I would congratulate the players on good tactics this time around.&nbsp; I would plot my next BBEG with improved tactics in mind and verify EL's with the CR charts with my newfound knowledge.&nbsp; Then, I would taunt them a second time.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="BSF, post: 2103492, member: 13098"] Well, Turning is a bit of a EL breaker and hard to figure into a single encounter. If it works, and why wouldn't it with weak zombies, then the zombies effectively become non-issues. It sounds like the LBEG wasn't really prepped for the party either. Why was the fighter able to waltz across the room and arrive where he could attack? So it is bad die rolls with good tactics by the party. As well, you might have relied a little too much on the CR charts. Mind you, this isn't a bad thing to do. Sometimes a challenge falls quickly to a specific group and would have been very difficult for another. *shrug* It happens. What would I do? I would note that low HD undead against my cleric is an opportunity for the Cleric to call down righteous turning wrath on them. Next time, double the zombies so the cleric must use more turning attempts. In the case of the BBEG, make sure the fight takes place on desecrated ground. Keep my low HP magic casters out of single-move range in case I lose init. Also make sure the party can't pull off a charge to get there. I would congratulate the players on good tactics this time around. I would plot my next BBEG with improved tactics in mind and verify EL's with the CR charts with my newfound knowledge. Then, I would taunt them a second time. :) [/QUOTE]

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