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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HardcoreDandDGirl" data-source="post: 6395626" data-attributes="member: 82746">please link to when I did that ?!?!? 1e is not really in my wheel house, the only 1e I ever played was heavy house rule and I never ran it... of cource you know I did ask quastions and was confused... but never called you a liar.. I even went so far as to say MY players hand book knowing it might be in a different printing... since I have never seen a 1e dmg I never knew that was were 3e got it from... I started in 2e...even that doesn't fit. You aren't using the candle for something it isn't meant for... it is meant to be used ot summon a creature... how is it a loop hole to summon a creature? wait... so I have to try to determain what the designers meant to write instead of what they did write?? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /><img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm    :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" />  the candle can summon, I use it to summon, the creature I summon can cast x spell so I have it cast x spell... that is the intended use of the candle....  there are loop holes in pun pun but I don't want to waste the time parsing it all out... it could be months of work  hey something we agree on.  we used raw to counter raw and never saw a loop hole anywhere in it...  WHEN?!?!?!? by trying to disprove your side of the argument... then aren't you calling me a lier by disagreeing?loopholes, cheating, fudging, interpreting,min maxing  and power gaming  are all different ways of doing things grouping all of them as cheating is unfair and insulting...</blockquote>

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