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<blockquote data-quote="Ancalagon" data-source="post: 8129463" data-attributes="member: 23"><p>I appreciate you taking the time to reply, and that is a great one to compare to. On a surface level, sure, it's about the same ish right? So I decided to look into it further... and twilight is <em>massively better</em>. Let us compare shall we?</p><p></p><p>Opportunity cost: </p><p>First, both take an action to "deploy" - there is an opportunity cost - the PC could have used that action to do something else. However, the artificer needs a bonus action to make it "fire" each round. The twilight cleric has no such need and can use their bonus action to do something else (spiritual weapon?). <em>Furthermore</em>, the artificer, by using the protector, is not using the offensive version of their cannon, and is therefore reducing their damage output, something that the twilight cleric doesn't have to worry about.</p><p>Winner: Twilight cleric, strongly.</p><p></p><p>Amount of "healing" done:</p><p>The artificer has a bit of an edge because the healing effect doesn't have to be centered on them, flexibility wise. However, that edge is more than equalized by the twilight cleric's <em>area</em> - <strong>30</strong> foot radius, vs the much more modest 10 feet radius of the protector. The artificer's protector does 1d8+int bonus temp HP. The cleric does 1d6+<em>cleric level</em>. So sure at low levels the artificer does a bit more, but the twilight cleric will massively outpace the artificer at mid and high levels (the double cannon at level 15 allows the artificer to catch up a bit). Lastly, the twilight aura also removes fear or charm.</p><p>Winner: Twilight cleric</p><p></p><p>Aaaaand that's just for the twilight aura! There are other powers too.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ancalagon, post: 8129463, member: 23"] I appreciate you taking the time to reply, and that is a great one to compare to. On a surface level, sure, it's about the same ish right? So I decided to look into it further... and twilight is [I]massively better[/I]. Let us compare shall we? Opportunity cost: First, both take an action to "deploy" - there is an opportunity cost - the PC could have used that action to do something else. However, the artificer needs a bonus action to make it "fire" each round. The twilight cleric has no such need and can use their bonus action to do something else (spiritual weapon?). [I]Furthermore[/I], the artificer, by using the protector, is not using the offensive version of their cannon, and is therefore reducing their damage output, something that the twilight cleric doesn't have to worry about. Winner: Twilight cleric, strongly. Amount of "healing" done: The artificer has a bit of an edge because the healing effect doesn't have to be centered on them, flexibility wise. However, that edge is more than equalized by the twilight cleric's [I]area[/I] - [B]30[/B] foot radius, vs the much more modest 10 feet radius of the protector. The artificer's protector does 1d8+int bonus temp HP. The cleric does 1d6+[I]cleric level[/I]. So sure at low levels the artificer does a bit more, but the twilight cleric will massively outpace the artificer at mid and high levels (the double cannon at level 15 allows the artificer to catch up a bit). Lastly, the twilight aura also removes fear or charm. Winner: Twilight cleric Aaaaand that's just for the twilight aura! There are other powers too. [/QUOTE]
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