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<blockquote data-quote="Levistus's_Leviathan" data-source="post: 8139088" data-attributes="member: 7023887"><p>You can't visually tell a difference by the effects that are produced, but there is a mechanical difference. They're different actions. If there was a feature for a rogue that lets them replace their attack with a Dodge action, but keeps it a part of the Attack action, when they Dodge this way they will actually be taking the Attack action, even though there is no visual difference between the effects that are produced.</p><p></p><p>No obvious difference, but there is a difference in the type of Action you take. 99 times out of 100 it will not matter, but it matters in this case.</p><p></p><p>If you read the feature as "one weapon attack only", where the only refers to the quality of the attack, you can't add Divine Smite, because that is doing more than just making a melee weapon attack.</p><p></p><p>Additionally, Haste's Attack action requirement never states "Features with the name Extra Attack can not be used with this action", it very explicitly states "One weapon attack only". Whether or not the ability to replace an attack with a cantrip is part of the Extra Attack feature does not matter, as the writing of the Extra Attack feature does not make that fact matter.</p><p></p><p>Absolutely not by any reading of the rules. That's a strawman argument if I've ever saw one. A bonus action attack from Two Weapon Fighting is not an attack action. If it was written the same way as Haste, that combination would work, but it is not written that way. If Haste was written the same way as Two Weapon Fighting, this combo would not be legal.</p><p></p><p>A Two-Weapon Fighting bonus action attack is not the Attack action, while the Hasted attack is written as part of the Attack action.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Levistus's_Leviathan, post: 8139088, member: 7023887"] You can't visually tell a difference by the effects that are produced, but there is a mechanical difference. They're different actions. If there was a feature for a rogue that lets them replace their attack with a Dodge action, but keeps it a part of the Attack action, when they Dodge this way they will actually be taking the Attack action, even though there is no visual difference between the effects that are produced. No obvious difference, but there is a difference in the type of Action you take. 99 times out of 100 it will not matter, but it matters in this case. If you read the feature as "one weapon attack only", where the only refers to the quality of the attack, you can't add Divine Smite, because that is doing more than just making a melee weapon attack. Additionally, Haste's Attack action requirement never states "Features with the name Extra Attack can not be used with this action", it very explicitly states "One weapon attack only". Whether or not the ability to replace an attack with a cantrip is part of the Extra Attack feature does not matter, as the writing of the Extra Attack feature does not make that fact matter. Absolutely not by any reading of the rules. That's a strawman argument if I've ever saw one. A bonus action attack from Two Weapon Fighting is not an attack action. If it was written the same way as Haste, that combination would work, but it is not written that way. If Haste was written the same way as Two Weapon Fighting, this combo would not be legal. A Two-Weapon Fighting bonus action attack is not the Attack action, while the Hasted attack is written as part of the Attack action. [/QUOTE]
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