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My ranger Poll results: See last post. (was beating the Ranger with a better stick)
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<blockquote data-quote="mmadsen" data-source="post: 625443" data-attributes="member: 1645"><p><span style="color: silver"><strong>5 </strong></span> - 1)The ranger needs to be able to track from first level onwards, hence needs it as a bonus feat.</p><p><em>If the Ranger's schtick is that he's a woodsman, he should be able to track. Other Feats and Special Abilities fit the ranger archetype well too: Endurance, Running, Animal Companion, Sneak Attack, etc.</em></p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><strong>3 </strong></span> - 2)The Ranger should have a +1 BAB/Level</p><p><em>The Rogue BAB wouldn't be the end of the world.</em></p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><strong>2 </strong></span> - 3)The ranger, being a rugged outdoorsman needs at least a d10 hitdie.</p><p><em>I see Endurance fitting much, much better than a d10 Hit Die; that's more about being a melee-fighting machine.</em></p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><strong>2 </strong></span> - 4)The ranger needs extra feats that help him in combat, such as Point blank shot or Two Weapon Fighting</p><p><em>If anything, the Ranger should have Sneak Attack (to fit the guerilla archetype) and perhaps archery Feats (to fit the Robin Hood archetype).</em></p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><strong>1 </strong></span> - 5)Provided the ranger needs the feats discussed in 4, he needs them in the first 3 levels</p><p><em>Not at all.</em></p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><strong>1 </strong></span> - 6)The ranger needs to be able to cast some divine spells (disregard the spell Animal friendship for this question)</p><p><em>The Ranger's (and Paladin's) spellcasting abilities scream "Prestige Class!" I can't believe they passed up the opportunity to use a new mechanic like that where it would fit so perfectly!</em></p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><strong>4 </strong></span> - 7)The ranger needs 6 skill points per level to fulfill his role</p><p><em>Six or eight.</em></p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><strong>3 </strong></span> - 8)The ranger needs a good reflex save</p><p><em>It fits some Rangers better than Fortitude. Either might fit.</em></p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><strong>4 </strong></span> - 9)The ranger needs to be able to acquire an animal companion</p><p><em>Not all Rangers should have Animal Companions, but it should be an option.</em></p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><strong>5 </strong></span> - 10)The ranger must not have multiclass restrictions</p><p><em>I can't see why they would have any such restrictions.</em></p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><strong>2 </strong></span> - 11)The ranger needs to be a core class, as opposed to being a prestige class</p><p><em>I'm not sure why a woodsman/scout would be a Prestige Class, but the current Ranger might make an Elven Sentinel Prestige Class (or something).</em></p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><strong>4 </strong></span> - 12)The ranger needs to either be forced or encouraged to wear light armour</p><p><em>It needn't be heavy-handed. If the class has stealthy skills and abilities, players will choose light armor for their characters.</em></p><p></p><p>As I've said before, the ranger archetype fits the Rogue better than the Ranger in most ways.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mmadsen, post: 625443, member: 1645"] [Color=silver][b]5 [/b][/Color] - 1)The ranger needs to be able to track from first level onwards, hence needs it as a bonus feat. [i]If the Ranger's schtick is that he's a woodsman, he should be able to track. Other Feats and Special Abilities fit the ranger archetype well too: Endurance, Running, Animal Companion, Sneak Attack, etc.[/i] [Color=silver][b]3 [/b][/Color] - 2)The Ranger should have a +1 BAB/Level [i]The Rogue BAB wouldn't be the end of the world.[/i] [Color=silver][b]2 [/b][/Color] - 3)The ranger, being a rugged outdoorsman needs at least a d10 hitdie. [i]I see Endurance fitting much, much better than a d10 Hit Die; that's more about being a melee-fighting machine.[/i] [Color=silver][b]2 [/b][/Color] - 4)The ranger needs extra feats that help him in combat, such as Point blank shot or Two Weapon Fighting [i]If anything, the Ranger should have Sneak Attack (to fit the guerilla archetype) and perhaps archery Feats (to fit the Robin Hood archetype).[/i] [Color=silver][b]1 [/b][/Color] - 5)Provided the ranger needs the feats discussed in 4, he needs them in the first 3 levels [i]Not at all.[/i] [Color=silver][b]1 [/b][/Color] - 6)The ranger needs to be able to cast some divine spells (disregard the spell Animal friendship for this question) [i]The Ranger's (and Paladin's) spellcasting abilities scream "Prestige Class!" I can't believe they passed up the opportunity to use a new mechanic like that where it would fit so perfectly![/i] [Color=silver][b]4 [/b][/Color] - 7)The ranger needs 6 skill points per level to fulfill his role [i]Six or eight.[/i] [Color=silver][b]3 [/b][/Color] - 8)The ranger needs a good reflex save [i]It fits some Rangers better than Fortitude. Either might fit.[/i] [Color=silver][b]4 [/b][/Color] - 9)The ranger needs to be able to acquire an animal companion [i]Not all Rangers should have Animal Companions, but it should be an option.[/i] [Color=silver][b]5 [/b][/Color] - 10)The ranger must not have multiclass restrictions [i]I can't see why they would have any such restrictions.[/i] [Color=silver][b]2 [/b][/Color] - 11)The ranger needs to be a core class, as opposed to being a prestige class [i]I'm not sure why a woodsman/scout would be a Prestige Class, but the current Ranger might make an Elven Sentinel Prestige Class (or something).[/i] [Color=silver][b]4 [/b][/Color] - 12)The ranger needs to either be forced or encouraged to wear light armour [i]It needn't be heavy-handed. If the class has stealthy skills and abilities, players will choose light armor for their characters.[/i] As I've said before, the ranger archetype fits the Rogue better than the Ranger in most ways. [/QUOTE]
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