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<blockquote data-quote="KenSeg" data-source="post: 3714040" data-attributes="member: 32662">I have mixed feelings in regard to 4E. I have been playing AD&amp;D for almost 30 years now, 20 of which with my current group. We used a wonderful house-ruled 1E/2E system all through the 80s and 90s. When 3E came out we decided to take a change and have used 3E/3.5E for the last 8 years. There have been both good and bad things about it. Using the core books only we have a unified system; however, that system created problems. We are all in our 40s and 50s now and just don't have the time to prep like we use to and the system really requires more prep time. We all know the various faults with 3.5E, heck all systems have them. But I think that part of it is just the complication of the rules. I think also part of the problem is having 30 years of rules floating through your head. Even after using 3.5E for 8 years now I still mess up on spells, remembering how they worked in 1E/2E and misapplying them in the situation. Same with monsters. I am glad that WotC is going to streamline the rules. I think it will be a good thing for the game and the new players. Our group is going to go back to our old 1E/2E house rules but are now going to include the best features of 3.5E as well that will make our game better. I anticipate that we will probably buy the 4E books as well and mine them for ideas.&nbsp; I wish the best of luck to WotC and all gamers using the newer systems. This old grognard is not going to bash your systems just because they are different than the ones that livened up my youth. Game on brothers!-KenSeggaming since 1978</blockquote>

[QUOTE="KenSeg, post: 3714040, member: 32662"] I have mixed feelings in regard to 4E. I have been playing AD&D for almost 30 years now, 20 of which with my current group. We used a wonderful house-ruled 1E/2E system all through the 80s and 90s. When 3E came out we decided to take a change and have used 3E/3.5E for the last 8 years. There have been both good and bad things about it. Using the core books only we have a unified system; however, that system created problems. We are all in our 40s and 50s now and just don't have the time to prep like we use to and the system really requires more prep time. We all know the various faults with 3.5E, heck all systems have them. But I think that part of it is just the complication of the rules. I think also part of the problem is having 30 years of rules floating through your head. Even after using 3.5E for 8 years now I still mess up on spells, remembering how they worked in 1E/2E and misapplying them in the situation. Same with monsters. I am glad that WotC is going to streamline the rules. I think it will be a good thing for the game and the new players. Our group is going to go back to our old 1E/2E house rules but are now going to include the best features of 3.5E as well that will make our game better. I anticipate that we will probably buy the 4E books as well and mine them for ideas. I wish the best of luck to WotC and all gamers using the newer systems. This old grognard is not going to bash your systems just because they are different than the ones that livened up my youth. Game on brothers! -KenSeg gaming since 1978 [/QUOTE]

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