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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mort" data-source="post: 8069756" data-attributes="member: 762">I've seen Open hand and drunken master in play at low levels, they seem to do ok (key is for the DM to not skimp on allowing short rests).I've never seen 4 elements in play and would never recommend to a new player (or anyone for that matter).I mean seriously, you start with 1. a glorified prestidigitation and 2. a first level spell (or effect) that tends to be really expensive.At higher levels it's worse. Woo I can cast fireball for over 1/3 my ki reserve 6 levels after the mage already could (with likely a worse save DC)! But wait at 17th level, I can cast stoneskin for just under 1/3 of my ki reserves - 10 levels after a mage could and at a level where it's almost certainly not going to mean much (Compare to an open hand monk, who for 2 less Ki can do 10d10 to a creature - if they fail their save otherwise to 0). Yuck.</blockquote>