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<blockquote data-quote="Undrave" data-source="post: 8070169" data-attributes="member: 7015698"><p>Why would you Flurry when your unarmed attack would do 1 dmg? Or do you mean with that ONE build with the Lizardfolk race? Then congrats! You found a second build of monk! Yay... that needs MCing to gain armor proficiency, which, AGAIN, doesn't actually speak much of the Monk's versatility.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Unless you're doing a 'you wake up in prison' game then...yeah... usuall, the Fighter has their signature weapon, and if they can't reach then they have thrown weapon or a long bow, which are all on par or superior to the Monk's own ranged options. I don't think having a class rely on the niche scenario of 'you get attacked while naked' is worth it if you ask me. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>WHEN? When would 15 AC be better than a Monk unarmored defense exactly? </p><p></p><p>The moment you use a shield or armor you lose your entire Martial Arts class feature, waste the Unarmored Defense class feature (so basically you monk level 1 is pointless and no longer exists, except to give you terrible hit dice) and you lose your Unarmored Movement bonus to speed... </p><p></p><p>If you want to MC into Cleric and delay Stunning Fist and Evasion even more, go ahead, but using heavy armor or a shield is just lugging needless bagage.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Undrave, post: 8070169, member: 7015698"] Why would you Flurry when your unarmed attack would do 1 dmg? Or do you mean with that ONE build with the Lizardfolk race? Then congrats! You found a second build of monk! Yay... that needs MCing to gain armor proficiency, which, AGAIN, doesn't actually speak much of the Monk's versatility. Unless you're doing a 'you wake up in prison' game then...yeah... usuall, the Fighter has their signature weapon, and if they can't reach then they have thrown weapon or a long bow, which are all on par or superior to the Monk's own ranged options. I don't think having a class rely on the niche scenario of 'you get attacked while naked' is worth it if you ask me. WHEN? When would 15 AC be better than a Monk unarmored defense exactly? The moment you use a shield or armor you lose your entire Martial Arts class feature, waste the Unarmored Defense class feature (so basically you monk level 1 is pointless and no longer exists, except to give you terrible hit dice) and you lose your Unarmored Movement bonus to speed... If you want to MC into Cleric and delay Stunning Fist and Evasion even more, go ahead, but using heavy armor or a shield is just lugging needless bagage. [/QUOTE]
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