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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mort" data-source="post: 8070560" data-attributes="member: 762">The problem is the 4 elements monk gets only 1 real ability until 6th level (then you get 2) and again at 11th - you better pick one you're really comfortable with! Compare to the shadow monk that gets 4 thematic usefull spells at 3rd level, plus a very useful cantrip (unlike the elements monk mostly flavor one) and their 6th level ability is probably the best low level monk ability period (essentially free misty step most of the time - no ki required).As for fly - you don't get that until 11th level, it's expensive and unlike other spell-casters  - it's self only.That said, I have not played (or seen in play) an elements monk. Have there been any good experiences posted about playing one? All the ones I recall are not great!</blockquote>