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<blockquote data-quote="grimslade" data-source="post: 8070809" data-attributes="member: 6061">The monk is serviceable. So is the ranger. You can have fun playing 5e with completely idiosyncratic builds too. Bounded accuracy means there are very small differences to efficacy in the game. IS the Monk broken? No. Could the monk be better? Sure. But it will take a rework to give a small (at best) boost. The Way of 4 Elements monk is hot garbage. It is a failed subclass to replicate A:TLA characters. It can be fun, but will never feel like you are a bender.I guess I don't understand what these threads are supposed to accomplish. The Monk is beloved by a lot of players. They are not so flawed that they don't add to a party. You could play a mage and do many of the same things, but you would be playing a mage and not a monk. I would love to redo the monk. More because I think the class is pigeon-holed into the dex-wis combo. There is room for a strength wis monk. A 1/2 caster monk should be made. But the PHB and 2/3 sub classes are fine.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="grimslade, post: 8070809, member: 6061"] The monk is serviceable. So is the ranger. You can have fun playing 5e with completely idiosyncratic builds too. Bounded accuracy means there are very small differences to efficacy in the game. IS the Monk broken? No. Could the monk be better? Sure. But it will take a rework to give a small (at best) boost. The Way of 4 Elements monk is hot garbage. It is a failed subclass to replicate A:TLA characters. It can be fun, but will never feel like you are a bender. I guess I don't understand what these threads are supposed to accomplish. The Monk is beloved by a lot of players. They are not so flawed that they don't add to a party. You could play a mage and do many of the same things, but you would be playing a mage and not a monk. I would love to redo the monk. More because I think the class is pigeon-holed into the dex-wis combo. There is room for a strength wis monk. A 1/2 caster monk should be made. But the PHB and 2/3 sub classes are fine. [/QUOTE]

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