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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 8071210" data-attributes="member: 6795602">I Agree they do good damage at those levels - at least when they are in melee (not highly optimized good damage though).&nbsp; In a typical party though they are likely to have one of the higher DPR's at those levels.Their survivability at low levels is pretty rough though which has tendency to drive players out of melee or to use ki on defensive abilities and either of those instances greatly reduces the monks damage.&nbsp; Couple this with the fact that some DM's tend to like to target higher DPR characters, some like to target the characters that have the lowest defense in melee (especially when it's easy to narratively justify **that one isn't wearing armor!).&nbsp; I'm thinking the monk gets set up in many campaigns to not only have worse survivability at those levels but to be targeted more often.I think these factors tend to lead to the case where their DPR on paper looks good, but their DPR in practice may come out quite a bit lower.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 8071210, member: 6795602"] I Agree they do good damage at those levels - at least when they are in melee (not highly optimized good damage though). In a typical party though they are likely to have one of the higher DPR's at those levels. Their survivability at low levels is pretty rough though which has tendency to drive players out of melee or to use ki on defensive abilities and either of those instances greatly reduces the monks damage. Couple this with the fact that some DM's tend to like to target higher DPR characters, some like to target the characters that have the lowest defense in melee (especially when it's easy to narratively justify **that one isn't wearing armor!). I'm thinking the monk gets set up in many campaigns to not only have worse survivability at those levels but to be targeted more often. I think these factors tend to lead to the case where their DPR on paper looks good, but their DPR in practice may come out quite a bit lower. [/QUOTE]

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