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<blockquote data-quote="Balesir" data-source="post: 6168004" data-attributes="member: 27160">I didn't mean to suggest (nor do I think I said) that players would or should be forced to link OUTs to Icon relationships. I just said it's what I would tend to do as a player, and I would be disappointed if players I GM for didn't do the same. &quot;I was once an animal&quot; is very cute and fluffy (although it might also be leveraged into an attempt to gain kewl powers, like superhuman sense of smell, etc.), but it doesn't really say all that much about the character's aims and ambitions, nor about their place in the society of the world (except to say &quot;outsider&quot;).Well, it defines the character's relationship to the world pretty much as &quot;the place I'm trapped and don't know much about&quot;.&nbsp;Hmm. I don't really see the difference, I admit. The &quot;game world&quot; doesn't exist except in the minds of those playing. It and the campaign currently being played are pretty much interlinked, together with the players whose imaginations the world exists in. Sometimes this extends beyond a single game group; some p-Hârns (parallel versions of Hârn), for example, are shared online accross many people. But that seems to me to be just an example of an &quot;uber-campaign&quot;.Beyond this, all game worlds are p-worlds; each just one instance of all the possible p-worlds out there. Some are similar to each other, others aren't. Each is a fragile flower that lasts only so long as the players' imaginations are focussed on it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Balesir, post: 6168004, member: 27160"] I didn't mean to suggest (nor do I think I said) that players would or should be [I]forced[/I] to link OUTs to Icon relationships. I just said it's what I would tend to do as a player, and I would be disappointed if players I GM for didn't do the same. "I was once an animal" is very cute and fluffy (although it might also be leveraged into an attempt to gain kewl powers, like superhuman sense of smell, etc.), but it doesn't really say all that much about the character's aims and ambitions, nor about their place in the society of the world (except to say "outsider"). Well, it defines the character's relationship to the world pretty much as "the place I'm trapped and don't know much about". Hmm. I don't really see the difference, I admit. The "game world" doesn't exist except in the minds of those playing. It and the campaign currently being played are pretty much interlinked, together with the players whose imaginations the world exists in. Sometimes this extends beyond a single game group; some p-Hârns (parallel versions of Hârn), for example, are shared online accross many people. But that seems to me to be just an example of an "uber-campaign". Beyond this, all game worlds are p-worlds; each just one instance of all the possible p-worlds out there. Some are similar to each other, others aren't. Each is a fragile flower that lasts only so long as the players' imaginations are focussed on it. [/QUOTE]

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