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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vocenoctum" data-source="post: 3687194" data-attributes="member: 2477">When Office 07 was coming out, MS had a deal for companies where you could get one free (or Vista) for watching some presentations.I had to watch 3 hours of MS tech presentations for a free office, and... wow...At least you can stop watching the pod casts <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-p" title="Stick out tongue    :-p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":-p" />I'm not sure the DI will be ready by GC, but either way I hold that seperate from the books. I'll give Gleemax a look at some point, and I'll check out the DI, but I buy the books depending on whether I want that book or not.I'm not the average ENworlder though I suppose, since I had already let my Dragon/DUngeon subs lapse since the magazine was not to my liking. I don't hold a grudge for WotC ending the Paizo deal, though I'd have liked to see Dragonlance continue, since I picked up the occasional DL book. I will still buy WotC books on their own merit.</blockquote>