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<blockquote data-quote="Maldin" data-source="post: 3990494" data-attributes="member: 27170"><p>Many thanks, Scotley! I'm glad you've found my site useful in the past. Yup, I'm still around, although I finally got around to moving my site over to its own domain in late 2004, and took the opportunity to completely revamp it and more then double the amount of original material. Its continued to expand since then, though RealLife(tm) tends to keep updates sporadic these days. If you haven't been by in a while, stop in! Use the active site map to navigate quickly through the site.</p><p></p><p>Keeping with the off-topic... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Word is, Greyhawk will not appear in any way, shape or form in 4th Edition. Except for some of the god names (which they are freely modifying anyways, and newcomers to the game will have no idea from the materials where those names originally came from), which they will be combining with gods from the Realms as well to form a mishmash with no history. They will even be removing the Greyhawk names from spells. Greyhawk's echoes will effectively be purged from the game system, particularly after Living Greyhawk is done this year, something WotC has been trying to do for quite some time. Some of the upper management and designers have said (in an attempt to silence the screams from the Grognard Balcony) that after the 4E Realms campaign book is published, there will be a (single) new campaign world source book each year thereafter... and that maybe Greyhawk will be on the list. But number two will almost certainly be Ebberon. I'd bet number 3 will be an all-new setting that they can completely own with no baggage (perhaps one of the two other finalists from the setting "contest" that have remained secret), or something completely new. Number 4? Hmmm, maybe Greyhawk, maybe Dragonlance, maybe something completely new again. Now we're already 5 years into 4th Edition. Doesn't look too good for Greyhawk. At that point, there will be so few players familiar with Greyhawk, that they can finally say there is no market (now that Paizo cannot publish GH any more, and can no longer prove that GH DOES sell... and damn well!)</p><p></p><p>Is that a bad thing? There's an arguement that can be made that any setting release from the current gang would not resemble, and perhaps not respect, the Greyhawk setting of the past in favor of a completely new "vision". Certainly the rules will have been changed a whole lot, making some change absolutely necessary. At that point, its probably best left in the hands of the fans, like Greyhawk was during the "Dark Times" when people ran secret file servers to distribute "illegal" (according to TSR of the early '90's) fan-created material. </p><p></p><p>Who knows.</p><p></p><p>Denis, aka "Maldin"</p><p>Maldin's Greyhawk <a href="http://melkot.com" target="_blank">http://melkot.com</a></p><p>Loads of edition-independent Greyhawk goodness... magic, mysteries, maps, mechanics, and more!</p><p>Keeping Greyhawk alive! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maldin, post: 3990494, member: 27170"] Many thanks, Scotley! I'm glad you've found my site useful in the past. Yup, I'm still around, although I finally got around to moving my site over to its own domain in late 2004, and took the opportunity to completely revamp it and more then double the amount of original material. Its continued to expand since then, though RealLife(tm) tends to keep updates sporadic these days. If you haven't been by in a while, stop in! Use the active site map to navigate quickly through the site. Keeping with the off-topic... ;) Word is, Greyhawk will not appear in any way, shape or form in 4th Edition. Except for some of the god names (which they are freely modifying anyways, and newcomers to the game will have no idea from the materials where those names originally came from), which they will be combining with gods from the Realms as well to form a mishmash with no history. They will even be removing the Greyhawk names from spells. Greyhawk's echoes will effectively be purged from the game system, particularly after Living Greyhawk is done this year, something WotC has been trying to do for quite some time. Some of the upper management and designers have said (in an attempt to silence the screams from the Grognard Balcony) that after the 4E Realms campaign book is published, there will be a (single) new campaign world source book each year thereafter... and that maybe Greyhawk will be on the list. But number two will almost certainly be Ebberon. I'd bet number 3 will be an all-new setting that they can completely own with no baggage (perhaps one of the two other finalists from the setting "contest" that have remained secret), or something completely new. Number 4? Hmmm, maybe Greyhawk, maybe Dragonlance, maybe something completely new again. Now we're already 5 years into 4th Edition. Doesn't look too good for Greyhawk. At that point, there will be so few players familiar with Greyhawk, that they can finally say there is no market (now that Paizo cannot publish GH any more, and can no longer prove that GH DOES sell... and damn well!) Is that a bad thing? There's an arguement that can be made that any setting release from the current gang would not resemble, and perhaps not respect, the Greyhawk setting of the past in favor of a completely new "vision". Certainly the rules will have been changed a whole lot, making some change absolutely necessary. At that point, its probably best left in the hands of the fans, like Greyhawk was during the "Dark Times" when people ran secret file servers to distribute "illegal" (according to TSR of the early '90's) fan-created material. Who knows. Denis, aka "Maldin" Maldin's Greyhawk [url]http://melkot.com[/url] Loads of edition-independent Greyhawk goodness... magic, mysteries, maps, mechanics, and more! Keeping Greyhawk alive! ;) [/QUOTE]
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