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<blockquote data-quote="ferratus" data-source="post: 4078207" data-attributes="member: 55966"><p>See, I still don't see how wire-fu wasn't around in prior editions. How else to explain a fight between a human and a giant? A human and a wyrm dragon? I mean dig out your old TSR novels from 10-20 years ago, long before D&D 3e, and look at the novel characters. The fighters and rogues totally were super strong, super skilled, or super ninja. Here is a list of people who had supernaturally good skills, and it would be longer if I read more pulp fiction. </p><p></p><p>Forgotten Realms makes the easiest case:</p><p></p><p>Drizzt & Zaknafein Do'Urden</p><p>Thibbledorf Pwent</p><p>Wulfgar</p><p>Alias & Dragonbait - watch the two combats between the great wyrm Mist</p><p>Arilyn Moonblade, Elaith Craulnober</p><p>The Knights of Myth Drannor</p><p></p><p>Dragonlance: </p><p></p><p>Ariakas the Dragon Emperor - Could throw a spear clean through a horse and strangle a minotaur with his bare hands</p><p>Caramon Majere - probably stronger than Ariakas</p><p>Porthios of Qualinesti - Took down three dragons and their riders</p><p>Dhamon Grimwulf</p><p>Linsha Majere</p><p></p><p>Greyhawk</p><p>Everyone in the Scarlet Brotherhood</p><p>Lord Robilar</p><p>Gord the Rogue</p><p></p><p>Dark Sun - Everybody</p><p></p><p>Planescape - Everybody</p><p></p><p>I would not think a conversion to 4e would exagerate any of these character's abilities.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ferratus, post: 4078207, member: 55966"] See, I still don't see how wire-fu wasn't around in prior editions. How else to explain a fight between a human and a giant? A human and a wyrm dragon? I mean dig out your old TSR novels from 10-20 years ago, long before D&D 3e, and look at the novel characters. The fighters and rogues totally were super strong, super skilled, or super ninja. Here is a list of people who had supernaturally good skills, and it would be longer if I read more pulp fiction. Forgotten Realms makes the easiest case: Drizzt & Zaknafein Do'Urden Thibbledorf Pwent Wulfgar Alias & Dragonbait - watch the two combats between the great wyrm Mist Arilyn Moonblade, Elaith Craulnober The Knights of Myth Drannor Dragonlance: Ariakas the Dragon Emperor - Could throw a spear clean through a horse and strangle a minotaur with his bare hands Caramon Majere - probably stronger than Ariakas Porthios of Qualinesti - Took down three dragons and their riders Dhamon Grimwulf Linsha Majere Greyhawk Everyone in the Scarlet Brotherhood Lord Robilar Gord the Rogue Dark Sun - Everybody Planescape - Everybody I would not think a conversion to 4e would exagerate any of these character's abilities. [/QUOTE]
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