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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AllisterH" data-source="post: 4086557" data-attributes="member: 51325">Which is kind of why I dislike the 3.x skill mechanics. For example, if I sent an average CR 10 monster against a Level 10 party, the basic assumption is that EVERYONE can contribute in the battle. You have to specifically choose monsters to screw over classes (golems vs mages, undead vs rogues etc). Furthermore, nobody thinks that you should send a CR 1 monster versus the party. Hell, even a CR 5 monster sent against the party would leave many heads scratchingWhy is it then that this same design paradigm isn't accepted for skills? Seriously, there's Appraise which has only *1* static DC but most other skills have variables DCs that increase as the task becomes more difficult (Exactly like how monsters are rated) or are skills that EXPLICITLY increase in level (Use Rope is tied directly to Escape Artist which itself is tied to the Grapple mechanics which increase in level)Focusing on Balance for example, it does seem that the designers wanted skill challenges to be tied to level otherwise there's no reason to have so many variable increasing DCs. You would just need 1 static DC a la Appraise.Whjat you're talking about (separating rogues and other high skill classes) is the AFTEREFFECT of the 3.x system. At levels 1-3, you can have most skill challenges that involve the entire party (due to the low DCs and the effect of attribute mods) but afterwards, thanks to how the system works, skill challenges become a singular endeavour. Which, IMO, is _NOT_ a good thing because many DMs then don't even bother using the skill system in any meaningful way. The ability of magic to trump skills so easily and completely is a whole different kettle of fish though.Er, Bluff vs sense Motive in combat is tied directly to level. You add your BAB to your sense motive check to oppose Feinting in combat. How is this NOT a clear example of the designers saying "skill challenges are supposed to scale with level"?</blockquote>

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