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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6356183" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>Wizards have AED powers: cantrips and rituals are at will, the short-rest recovery option gives you your "E" (though not as much as for warlocks), your prepared spells are D.</p><p></p><p>Fighters have AED too: your hit dice are "D", your action surge and second wind "E", your weapon attacks "A". It's true that fighters don't have a lot of "U", but they have some: indomitable and survivor. (Crit range buffs seem closer to feats than to utility powers.)</p><p></p><p>"Button pushing" implies spamming, to me at least, in which case fighters seems to have more of it in 5e than 4e, given they do the same thing more (ie make simple attacks). Or if "button pushing" implies spamming "special moves" (however exactly defined) than I think 3E was probably the peak of that (trip/grapple fighters), but I'm not sure why a game is better (as opposed to, say, different) because fighters <em>have</em> no special moves.</p><p></p><p>(I haven't seen Battlemasters fighters yet. It seems that, compared to the Champions I have been referencing above, they lose some "U" for more "E".)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 6356183, member: 42582"] Wizards have AED powers: cantrips and rituals are at will, the short-rest recovery option gives you your "E" (though not as much as for warlocks), your prepared spells are D. Fighters have AED too: your hit dice are "D", your action surge and second wind "E", your weapon attacks "A". It's true that fighters don't have a lot of "U", but they have some: indomitable and survivor. (Crit range buffs seem closer to feats than to utility powers.) "Button pushing" implies spamming, to me at least, in which case fighters seems to have more of it in 5e than 4e, given they do the same thing more (ie make simple attacks). Or if "button pushing" implies spamming "special moves" (however exactly defined) than I think 3E was probably the peak of that (trip/grapple fighters), but I'm not sure why a game is better (as opposed to, say, different) because fighters [I]have[/I] no special moves. (I haven't seen Battlemasters fighters yet. It seems that, compared to the Champions I have been referencing above, they lose some "U" for more "E".) [/QUOTE]
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