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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scribble" data-source="post: 1770346" data-attributes="member: 23977">Heh, someone mentioned the bard and paladin seeming more the prestige classes then regular classes, and well thats because they were... Back in first edition, you didn't start as either.I haven't looked at the rules in a while but if I remember right, it was actually pretty hard to become a Bard. (ugg that rhymed..)I agree with the original thought that the UA book has a few things that are being tested for 4e... In my opinion thats part of what the whole combat and tactics, skills and powers thing was about... As far as Classless D&D, I can see it possibly moving along the lines of the way Modern does it. With no classes to start out, but by third level being able to branch into a prestige class.. Now the whole DR for armor thing. Eh I'm not a fan of this. I think if you want to get technical, anythign that misses your base plus your dex actually missed you. Anything that would have hit you were it not for your armor, has glanced off of or been stopped by, your armor. Anything that would have hit your base plus your armor if not for your shield, is because it hit your shield. Anything that would have hit you despite your base + armor + shield if not for the cover bonus, hit the cover... And so forth... I believe there was a mechanic in 1st edition that gave certain bonuses or penalties to different weapon types depending on the armor you wore... But I never used it in any edition. And I think the reason the removed it was because it took unessesary time. But who knows.</blockquote>

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