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<blockquote data-quote="Merlion" data-source="post: 1778305" data-attributes="member: 10397"><p>Yea, thats exactly right. Also utterly irelevent to this discussion and this thread. Its not about when its going to come out, its speculation of what might happen when it does.</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>And you simply dislike it, but that doesnt effect the likelihood of its being made core.</p><p></p><p>It isnt a "pet change." Its simply a likely one, for a number of reasons. One of the biggest being that it isnt a terribly large change. It doesnt remove or even really change any sacred cows. Armor Class is still there and works the same way. Armor is still there, it just works in a slightly different way. </p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>First, I dont think thats true. The majority of people are probably "ok" with it, but its a frequently brought up complaint about the way the game works, in my experience. Because it is both unrealstic, and illogical. Especially when combined with the linked issue of the fact that right now, characters defenses are based entirely on equipment, and how that equipment works, and that a point is reached pretty quickly where the AC granted by armor no longer does one much good at all (since the AC system is all or nothing in nature). </p><p></p><p></p><p>Second in response to that...the majority of people are fine with the current edition, but their will still be another one. Just because everyone doesnt *hate* something doesnt mean they wouldnt like imrpovement. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>First, I am not ignoring it...I addressed it in my last post on the subject, which you are ignoring.</p><p></p><p>In the UA system (as I said before) the max DR you can get from armor is *4*(Full Plate). Thats enough to negate all normal damage from a person with a str of 11 or less wielding a totally normal dagger (which to me seems perfectly fine).</p><p></p><p>I also re iterated what another poster had said, that if such a system were used, tweaking things to slightly increase the chance of critical hits might not be a bad idea, to help represent a lucky shot with a low damage weapon. </p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>This is interesting...does this mean you dont think the heavy fighter types are viable options now?</p><p></p><p>I never said I thought that. Although I think the Fighter class could use a boost, and I think that AC/Attacks/Damage in combat do have some issues, and I think the combination of Armor as DR and CBDB helps address some of them, without making massive fundemental changes to the system of the game. </p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I cant see this statement as anything but silly since, having used it, I know that 1) it is not trouble and 2) its worth a great deal.</p><p></p><p>Have you ever in fact tried it? (not that it should be neccesary, looking at the system should tell you its far from the great clunky thing you seem to think)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Merlion, post: 1778305, member: 10397"] Yea, thats exactly right. Also utterly irelevent to this discussion and this thread. Its not about when its going to come out, its speculation of what might happen when it does. And you simply dislike it, but that doesnt effect the likelihood of its being made core. It isnt a "pet change." Its simply a likely one, for a number of reasons. One of the biggest being that it isnt a terribly large change. It doesnt remove or even really change any sacred cows. Armor Class is still there and works the same way. Armor is still there, it just works in a slightly different way. First, I dont think thats true. The majority of people are probably "ok" with it, but its a frequently brought up complaint about the way the game works, in my experience. Because it is both unrealstic, and illogical. Especially when combined with the linked issue of the fact that right now, characters defenses are based entirely on equipment, and how that equipment works, and that a point is reached pretty quickly where the AC granted by armor no longer does one much good at all (since the AC system is all or nothing in nature). Second in response to that...the majority of people are fine with the current edition, but their will still be another one. Just because everyone doesnt *hate* something doesnt mean they wouldnt like imrpovement. First, I am not ignoring it...I addressed it in my last post on the subject, which you are ignoring. In the UA system (as I said before) the max DR you can get from armor is *4*(Full Plate). Thats enough to negate all normal damage from a person with a str of 11 or less wielding a totally normal dagger (which to me seems perfectly fine). I also re iterated what another poster had said, that if such a system were used, tweaking things to slightly increase the chance of critical hits might not be a bad idea, to help represent a lucky shot with a low damage weapon. This is interesting...does this mean you dont think the heavy fighter types are viable options now? I never said I thought that. Although I think the Fighter class could use a boost, and I think that AC/Attacks/Damage in combat do have some issues, and I think the combination of Armor as DR and CBDB helps address some of them, without making massive fundemental changes to the system of the game. I cant see this statement as anything but silly since, having used it, I know that 1) it is not trouble and 2) its worth a great deal. Have you ever in fact tried it? (not that it should be neccesary, looking at the system should tell you its far from the great clunky thing you seem to think) [/QUOTE]
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