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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DaviMMS" data-source="post: 7117028" data-attributes="member: 6871301">Where the <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> those numbers are coming from. At 11th the modifiers would be +5 and dueling would be applied.Fighter at 11th deals 1d8+5(str)+2(dueling) per attack. That averages 11.5. 11.5x6= 69 + 5d10(Superioty Dice)= 69+27.5 = 96.5And the paladin deals2d8+5+2+4d8=34x2=68 + 4d6 (Thundering smite as a bonus action) = 82Even if you consider that IDS applies twice when you smite it is still behind the fighter (91 vs 96,5). But I don't think this is the best way to compare. The best way IMO is taking the whole day resources and convert that to damage.So:Fighter 53 action surges = 6 attacks of 1d8+6= 6312 Superioty dice = 54Total = 117Paladin4 1st level Slots = 8d8 = 362 2nd level Slots = 6d8 = 27Total = 63Only the action surges have the same damage potencial of all smites1 round NovaFighter 5 = (1d8+6x4)+4d8= 60Paladin 5 = (1d8+6+3d8)x2 + 3d6= 58,5At 11th we getFighter 11Normal round = (1d8+5+2)x3 = 34.5Nova Round = (1d8+5+2)x6+ 5d10= 96.5Daily Resources = 1d8+7x9=103,5 + 15d10 (82,5)= 186Paladin 11Normal Round = 2d8+7x2=32Nova Round = (2d8+4d8+7)×2+4d6=82 or 91 (if IDS applies twice)Daily Resources = 121,5 or 166.5 (if IDS applies twice) and every time you use Thundering Smite to nova highter this lower a little.So, if you consider the recommended ratio of short and long rests, the fighter is quite ahead in terms of daily potencial, has a normal round a little highter and a highter nova. If you don't consider the IDS applying twice when you use divine smite, only 1 short rest per day is enough for the fighter to become on par with the paladin.OBS: This is a pure damage comparison, so there are a lot of things not taken into reggard. Those things mostly favor the paladin (Channel divinity and using the spells in other ways vs 1 ASI)Sent from my SM-G900M using <a href="http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=93205" target="_blank">EN World mobile app</a></blockquote>

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