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My WF Fighter. War Mind or WF Juggernaut?
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<blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 2712486" data-attributes="member: 5777"><p>complete divine I believe.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If you take 3 levels of juggernaught first then the will save becomes 'less' of a problem. Although still an issue at times being immune to all mind effecting tends to really cut down on will saves.</p><p></p><p>The extra levels of psychic warrior to get the bonus feats would allow for psionic charge as well, so you can charge around opponents, and speed of thought so that you move faster all of the time.</p><p></p><p>Although it is true you would likely be best off simply taking all the levels in psychic warrior, better manifestor level that way and many more powers to choose from.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Would you allow practiced spellcaster though? They are very similar in ability, although the manifestor one would really make a psion/psychic warrior run out of pp extremely fast if they tried to take advantage of it.</p><p></p><p>A fighter4/sorc 1 who takes practiced spellcaster can pop out at least 4 first level spells at caster level 5, which means extra duration and more power (such as burning hands doing 5d4 or magic missile doing 3d4+3)</p><p></p><p>A fighter 4/psion 1 who takes practiced manifestor might get a single power using 3 pp off, or three powers without any augmentation at all, although he also gets the extra duration effect.</p><p></p><p>for the guy I suggested earlier who would need it (fighter 2/psychic warrior 2/psion 1/warmind X, we'll just say warmind 10 for a point) this is what he would look like after buying it three times.</p><p>psychic warrior manifestor level 6 (decent buff duration sometimes, auto take down from dispel however)</p><p>psion manifestor level 5 (enough to put up some minor effects now and then, cannot bypass SR so it will be limited to tricks generally)</p><p>Warmind manifestor level 14 (not quite enough to keep buffs up against a dispel a lot of the time, but at least it is somewhat possible, with proper power/item choice it'll be better than 50%, but this build relies on its buffs pretty heavily)</p><p></p><p>So, even with the feat the build would still be a little precarious, but at least it would be fun! Too bad there isnt a feat to make it go up to +8 or more ;/</p><p></p><p>That is part of the reason why I said full psychic warrior would be nicer, full manifestor progression!</p><p></p><p>At that point, practiced spellcaster is 'much' more powerful.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scion, post: 2712486, member: 5777"] complete divine I believe. If you take 3 levels of juggernaught first then the will save becomes 'less' of a problem. Although still an issue at times being immune to all mind effecting tends to really cut down on will saves. The extra levels of psychic warrior to get the bonus feats would allow for psionic charge as well, so you can charge around opponents, and speed of thought so that you move faster all of the time. Although it is true you would likely be best off simply taking all the levels in psychic warrior, better manifestor level that way and many more powers to choose from. Would you allow practiced spellcaster though? They are very similar in ability, although the manifestor one would really make a psion/psychic warrior run out of pp extremely fast if they tried to take advantage of it. A fighter4/sorc 1 who takes practiced spellcaster can pop out at least 4 first level spells at caster level 5, which means extra duration and more power (such as burning hands doing 5d4 or magic missile doing 3d4+3) A fighter 4/psion 1 who takes practiced manifestor might get a single power using 3 pp off, or three powers without any augmentation at all, although he also gets the extra duration effect. for the guy I suggested earlier who would need it (fighter 2/psychic warrior 2/psion 1/warmind X, we'll just say warmind 10 for a point) this is what he would look like after buying it three times. psychic warrior manifestor level 6 (decent buff duration sometimes, auto take down from dispel however) psion manifestor level 5 (enough to put up some minor effects now and then, cannot bypass SR so it will be limited to tricks generally) Warmind manifestor level 14 (not quite enough to keep buffs up against a dispel a lot of the time, but at least it is somewhat possible, with proper power/item choice it'll be better than 50%, but this build relies on its buffs pretty heavily) So, even with the feat the build would still be a little precarious, but at least it would be fun! Too bad there isnt a feat to make it go up to +8 or more ;/ That is part of the reason why I said full psychic warrior would be nicer, full manifestor progression! At that point, practiced spellcaster is 'much' more powerful. [/QUOTE]
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