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<blockquote data-quote="GameJunkie" data-source="post: 4807308" data-attributes="member: 83925">Where is the save stacking with the Orb of Imposition?&nbsp; All it says it that you can pick one subject to suffer a minus equal to a Wizard's Wisdom modifier for ONE effect.&nbsp; At the very worst it would be -9 if you min/maxed Wisdom.&nbsp; But I see no problem with -5 given that most logical wizard builds not out to optimize would start at 14(16) if Deva and top out at 22(24) which only gives a -6/-7 at level 26.&nbsp; So I can live with your 5-10 percent nerf.As a player I am not into character optimization nor are any of the players I have run games for.&nbsp; I find starting with the basic starting array adding your race mods and letting the stat boosts come make for characters that are quite strong at the epic levels without the possible crazy builds that ran rampant in 3.5.Do what I do and have another solo show up in the same encounter after the first has been locked down.&nbsp; If you find that the Orb Wizard is spamming with a favorite effect.&nbsp; Character Optimization can be a fun exercise but I find them to be one trick ponies, they leave holes.&nbsp; Holes I use to punish them.&nbsp; Alternately I would only change it to -6 given it has more symetry with the highest magic buffs you can have in the game via magic items.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GameJunkie, post: 4807308, member: 83925"] Where is the save stacking with the Orb of Imposition? All it says it that you can pick one subject to suffer a minus equal to a Wizard's Wisdom modifier for ONE effect. At the very worst it would be -9 if you min/maxed Wisdom. But I see no problem with -5 given that most logical wizard builds not out to optimize would start at 14(16) if Deva and top out at 22(24) which only gives a -6/-7 at level 26. So I can live with your 5-10 percent nerf. As a player I am not into character optimization nor are any of the players I have run games for. I find starting with the basic starting array adding your race mods and letting the stat boosts come make for characters that are quite strong at the epic levels without the possible crazy builds that ran rampant in 3.5. Do what I do and have another solo show up in the same encounter after the first has been locked down. If you find that the Orb Wizard is spamming with a favorite effect. Character Optimization can be a fun exercise but I find them to be one trick ponies, they leave holes. Holes I use to punish them. Alternately I would only change it to -6 given it has more symetry with the highest magic buffs you can have in the game via magic items. [/QUOTE]

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