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<blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 6638650" data-attributes="member: 5890">Is it possible (in any given game system, not just D&amp;D) for a character to deviate in practice from the expectations that a player has when they create that character in such a way as to harm that player's enjoyment of the game?If so, is this something that is governed at least in part by the rules?My answer to those two questions is yes.Given that, it's possible for a player to be lead to believe that a character in D&amp;D has abilities that deviate from what they actually have, that the players enjoyment may be impacted by that, and that the mismatch is at least partly governed by the rules.Furthermore, this is most easily done as a comparison to another class, because it's really hard to answer the question &quot;Can a wizard charm people well enough?&quot; as a stand alone sort of thing. It's much easier to answer &quot;Can a wizard charm people better than a bard?&quot;, and then to say &quot;If the answer is yes, isn't that a bit counter intuitive given expectations about a bard?&quot;Or in short &quot;why X is underpowered compared to Y, and why I care enough to make a forum post about it&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Saeviomagy, post: 6638650, member: 5890"] Is it possible (in any given game system, not just D&D) for a character to deviate in practice from the expectations that a player has when they create that character in such a way as to harm that player's enjoyment of the game? If so, is this something that is governed at least in part by the rules? My answer to those two questions is yes. Given that, it's possible for a player to be lead to believe that a character in D&D has abilities that deviate from what they actually have, that the players enjoyment may be impacted by that, and that the mismatch is at least partly governed by the rules. Furthermore, this is most easily done as a comparison to another class, because it's really hard to answer the question "Can a wizard charm people well enough?" as a stand alone sort of thing. It's much easier to answer "Can a wizard charm people better than a bard?", and then to say "If the answer is yes, isn't that a bit counter intuitive given expectations about a bard?" Or in short "why X is underpowered compared to Y, and why I care enough to make a forum post about it" [/QUOTE]

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