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<blockquote data-quote="NotAYakk" data-source="post: 8007931" data-attributes="member: 72555"><p>Ok, I'm going to say run with it.</p><p></p><p>Zone of Truth actually works. It easily reveals the mystery.</p><p></p><p>But, remember that bit about only asking questions about the problem? It also uncovers something else horrible.</p><p></p><p>---</p><p></p><p>Another approach.</p><p></p><p>Zone of Truth requires that the subject be free to choose their own words. If you force them to quote you/repeat after you, or say "yes/no", Zone of Truth doesn't work right. If they <strong>choose</strong> to use those words, then it works.</p><p></p><p>The external coercion warps the intention of the subject.</p><p></p><p>And if you cut them off, you get the Truth of what they intended to say, not what they said. So if you ask "Did you kill her?" and they say "No, I [...]" and you cut them off, you get "Truth" because the rest of the sentence was "No, I am not going to say I killed her. I am not the type to kill people for no reason."</p><p></p><p>This means Zone of Truth can be defeated by being silent, or blathering on forever.</p><p></p><p>---</p><p></p><p>Or mix these two. Onion adventure.</p><p></p><p>Layer 1 is the auction.</p><p>Layer 2 is the theft and investigation</p><p>Layer 3 is something discovered during the investigation</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NotAYakk, post: 8007931, member: 72555"] Ok, I'm going to say run with it. Zone of Truth actually works. It easily reveals the mystery. But, remember that bit about only asking questions about the problem? It also uncovers something else horrible. --- Another approach. Zone of Truth requires that the subject be free to choose their own words. If you force them to quote you/repeat after you, or say "yes/no", Zone of Truth doesn't work right. If they [b]choose[/b] to use those words, then it works. The external coercion warps the intention of the subject. And if you cut them off, you get the Truth of what they intended to say, not what they said. So if you ask "Did you kill her?" and they say "No, I [...]" and you cut them off, you get "Truth" because the rest of the sentence was "No, I am not going to say I killed her. I am not the type to kill people for no reason." This means Zone of Truth can be defeated by being silent, or blathering on forever. --- Or mix these two. Onion adventure. Layer 1 is the auction. Layer 2 is the theft and investigation Layer 3 is something discovered during the investigation [/QUOTE]
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