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Message: <blockquote data-quote="NotAYakk" data-source="post: 8008248" data-attributes="member: 72555">Ok, so obviously the guilty party (and at least 1 other) have a ring of mind shielding.It is invisible, and renders them immune to the zone of truth.  They appear to be effected, but are not.These rings are also immune to detect magic and see invisibility while the bearer is alive.  Because otherwise they wouldn't be very good, now would they.So the party or parties who did it, well, they lie.  The people who didn't do it, tell the truth.  The PCs have to figure out who is lieing and who is telling the truth.There should be inconsistencies between the stories.  The guilty party should have an inconsistency, the other wearer should have one (but is otherwise innocent of THIS crime).  Oh, a 3rd person should have a ring, but tell the truth anyhow; these are criminals, after all.Mix in at least one illusion that an innocent person saw.  Say, person X saw an illusion of person Y doing something clearly suspicious in hindsight.  And person Y maintains their innocence under the zone of truth.  Neither have the ring that lets them lie.This might be pretty cruel.9 angry criminals:A: The guilty party.  Can lie freely.  Makes a mistake at some point, states something inconsistent with Cs and Ys statements.B: Can also lie freely.  Has something else to hide, lies.  Makes a mistake, states something inconsistent with D and Y's statements.C: Can also lie freely, but chooses not to.  One of their statements is very slightly inconsistent with one of A's statements, and saw Y when X saw the illusion.D: Cannot lie.  One of their statements is inconsistent with one of Bs and Xs.E: Cannot lie.  Is clueless.  Like, out to lunch.X: Saw an illusion of Y doing something suspicious.  Believes it was Y.  One of their claims disagrees with one of Xs, due to error.Y: Maintains they did not do the action, but doesn't know C saw them at the same time, so alibi is poor.  One of their statements is inconsistent with one of As and Bs.Z: Cannot lie.  Has and believes in a conspiracy theory, and will claim its tenants as truth under the zone.  "I think I saw a shadow gnome.  They grab things and frame people you know."  Thinks the shadow gnomes are working in cahoots with A.</blockquote>

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