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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Taliz" data-source="post: 1214337" data-attributes="member: 14216">Just to clarify, the creatures chased men into the Forest, and the Elves did Brightstone a great service by both harboring them and helping destroy the enemy.  Brightstone has not forgotten, either.And you say men brought an Orc invasion on themselves?  I know little of that - in fact I know little of this whole realm, as I am not from it.  But I was under the impression the Elves are enemies of all Orcs.  Do you not care that they penetrated this closely to your home?  Do you not worry that they slipped so easily through this buffer you speak of?I agree that is not the way - speaking purely as a tactitian, one should not wait for one's enemies to attack you on their terms.  That is never the way.  One must force them into action - offensive or defensive it does not matter.But is there some specific enemy you fear? Such is unknown to me - there have been many weird and violent happenings of late, but I see no pattern as of yet.  Do elves, in their wisdom and with their wide sight, know more than men in this?Speaking of things which you know more of than I, those six treaties are unknown to me.  I am not from this place.  Their contents, their contexts - these things are unknown to me.  You should speak to the Prince or a historian for that.  I can only tell you, I doubt the world was in the same place it is now.  And I doubt the men in power were of the same heart and mind.Now, so many of you have left.  Do you still speak for the Elves?  Can you still direct their course?  [Is the elf who referred to my "stock" still there?][You are not as good with dice as I am.  At least as far as Taliz and my luck-curve are concerned.]</blockquote>

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