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<blockquote data-quote="Deset Gled" data-source="post: 2501734" data-attributes="member: 7808"><p><s></s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>I see no problems with that reading of the feat. In the case with the wizard you mentioned, the wizard has the option of preparing any 2nd level wizard spell. Thus, she can cast "spells". As you stated, the sorcerer gets more than one 2nd level spell, and can thus cast "spells". Both of these characters would be able to meet the MT prerequisite. But the person using using Precocious Apprentice can only cast one spell, once per day. That is a spell, singular. That character does not meet the prerequisite. There is no rules contradiction in griff's interpretation.</s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>Your reasoning, however, requires the DM to change the wording of the rules to fit her purpose. While this is always an option, it is also placing the onus on the DM. If a DM resorts to changing the rules every time a player thinks of something the DM hasn't, I don't think it will bode well with the group. While this may be okay as an exception, it makes for a rather nasty rule. More importantly, why should a DM have to rewrite the rules if there's already a valid interpretation in her favor?</s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>I think you are making the dangerous assumption that just because something may seem minor, it is also trivial. I maintain that the two concepts are very different.</s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>And besides, this is the rules forum. Arguing over picayune readings is what we do best. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></s></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Deset Gled, post: 2501734, member: 7808"] [s] I see no problems with that reading of the feat. In the case with the wizard you mentioned, the wizard has the option of preparing any 2nd level wizard spell. Thus, she can cast "spells". As you stated, the sorcerer gets more than one 2nd level spell, and can thus cast "spells". Both of these characters would be able to meet the MT prerequisite. But the person using using Precocious Apprentice can only cast one spell, once per day. That is a spell, singular. That character does not meet the prerequisite. There is no rules contradiction in griff's interpretation. Your reasoning, however, requires the DM to change the wording of the rules to fit her purpose. While this is always an option, it is also placing the onus on the DM. If a DM resorts to changing the rules every time a player thinks of something the DM hasn't, I don't think it will bode well with the group. While this may be okay as an exception, it makes for a rather nasty rule. More importantly, why should a DM have to rewrite the rules if there's already a valid interpretation in her favor? I think you are making the dangerous assumption that just because something may seem minor, it is also trivial. I maintain that the two concepts are very different. And besides, this is the rules forum. Arguing over picayune readings is what we do best. :)[/s] [/QUOTE]
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