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Mystic Theurge? Eldritch Knight? Located where?
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<blockquote data-quote="Silverglass" data-source="post: 1232130" data-attributes="member: 14071"><p>Eldritch Knight is not overpowered as you lose a caster level, any bonus feats and familiar progression in return for better HP and BAB, to be a Fighter/Wizard you really need Still Spell so that they can cast spells in armour.</p><p></p><p>Mystic Theurge seems overpowered but in fact it isn't, it just fixes the fatal weakness of Multiclassed spellcasters, the fact that low level spells coupled with a low caster level just can't make a decent impact against high level monsters.</p><p></p><p>A Wizard 3/Cleric 3/Mystic Theurge 5 counts as an 8th level caster in each class. Compare that with an 11th level Single caster and you quickly see that with 4th level spells rather han 6th level the MT loses out quite a lot (because a spells power increases in a non-linear manner). Even a Wizard 5/Cleric 5/MT 10 only counts as a 15th level caster in ecah class so loses 8th and 9th level spells. Yes they have 4 or 5 more spells per day at each level up to 5th and 2 extra 6th but they will have 2 less 8th level spells and 4 less 9th level spells (yes they gain a net 19 spells, excluding ability bonuses, but those are low level which rarely make a huge impact on a high level encounter). The final bonus is that they will roll to penetrate SR as a 15th level caster in each class but that just makes penetrating SR difficult rather than well-nigh impossible.</p><p></p><p>For these "extras" the Wizard loses bonus feats, familiar progression and the 2 free spells each level. The Cleric loses 2 HP/level and turning progression (and a 5th level Cleric's turn usually wont touch high CR undead).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Silverglass, post: 1232130, member: 14071"] Eldritch Knight is not overpowered as you lose a caster level, any bonus feats and familiar progression in return for better HP and BAB, to be a Fighter/Wizard you really need Still Spell so that they can cast spells in armour. Mystic Theurge seems overpowered but in fact it isn't, it just fixes the fatal weakness of Multiclassed spellcasters, the fact that low level spells coupled with a low caster level just can't make a decent impact against high level monsters. A Wizard 3/Cleric 3/Mystic Theurge 5 counts as an 8th level caster in each class. Compare that with an 11th level Single caster and you quickly see that with 4th level spells rather han 6th level the MT loses out quite a lot (because a spells power increases in a non-linear manner). Even a Wizard 5/Cleric 5/MT 10 only counts as a 15th level caster in ecah class so loses 8th and 9th level spells. Yes they have 4 or 5 more spells per day at each level up to 5th and 2 extra 6th but they will have 2 less 8th level spells and 4 less 9th level spells (yes they gain a net 19 spells, excluding ability bonuses, but those are low level which rarely make a huge impact on a high level encounter). The final bonus is that they will roll to penetrate SR as a 15th level caster in each class but that just makes penetrating SR difficult rather than well-nigh impossible. For these "extras" the Wizard loses bonus feats, familiar progression and the 2 free spells each level. The Cleric loses 2 HP/level and turning progression (and a 5th level Cleric's turn usually wont touch high CR undead). [/QUOTE]
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