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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pawsplay" data-source="post: 1261396" data-attributes="member: 15538">Mystic Theurge makes you less a Cleric, because of the poor hit dice and BAB, weak Fortitude save, and you can't wear armor without hurting your arcane casting.  You also get no turning progression.  It makes you less a Wizard, because you get no familiar advances and no bonus Feats.  It's not so bad for Sorceror, but you still get no familiar advances, and you will generally have less Skill Points than a Wizard (or spread your ability scores even thinner).  Your highest caster level is 3 less than that of a pure caster.  You are less a Cleric or a Wizard, because you have two ability scores for casting.  You combine Wizard armor restrictions with Cleric religious restrictions.  Eldritch Knight causes you to trade your good Will save for a good Fortitude save.  Your caster level is a minimum of 2 less than a pure caster.  You get no bonus feats if a Wizard, no familiar advances if a Wizard or Sorcerer, and no higher level Bard abilities if a Bard.  Sorcerers sacrifice the least by the charts (just familiars and changing out their good save in exchange for full BAB and a better hit die), but require a good ability score in everything except perhaps Wisdom: Str for melee, Dex for AC and ranged, Con for hit points, Int for skill ranks (which are in precious supply), and Cha for sorcerer casting.  The Fighter Feat at 1st level was a stroke of inspiration.  Not only does it take you down one more caster level, with some compensation (you basically get one virtual Fighter level with less hit points), but it means their caster level increases are not regular and hence there is no question of caster progression for epic characters.</blockquote>

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