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<blockquote data-quote="Bendris Noulg" data-source="post: 829465" data-attributes="member: 6398"><p>Keep in mind that we constantly hear, again and again, that updates and revisions (and editions) are aimed at reducing the abusability of the system. In this instance, what you would <em>like</em> done and what someone else <em>can</em> do are entirely different things. For instance, I had few problems with 2E, mostly because my friends and I understood the spirit of the designer's intentions and stuck true to it. However, that doesn't mean 2E didn't have problems just because most of the abuses were based on mechanical min/max methods used by people that didn't give spit about the spirit of the rules.</p><p></p><p>If 3E is to hold to its purpose as an edition (lack of abusability), than what <em>can</em> be done must have priority in determining the balance of anything, regardless of what those who appreciate such spirit would want.</p><p></p><p>Trust me, I <em>wish</em> it was the other way, but we live in a world of lawyers and people who try to get away with everything they think they can, and the word of the laws (or rules) hold the higher place over the intention regardless of how noble those intentions are or were. After all, isn't the PC obtainment of Prestige Classes as a <em>general right</em> rather than a campaign-defining event contrary to the spirit of Prestige Classes to begin with? Yet there are plenty of players that would refuse to play in a game unless they were free to obtain what-ever Prestige Class (or magic item, or spell, or anything else) they want (and often unfairly ripping on those who would say otherwise).</p><p></p><p>And remember that Prestige Classes are supposedly being "redefined" in 3.5; Sometimes that makes me shudder.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bendris Noulg, post: 829465, member: 6398"] Keep in mind that we constantly hear, again and again, that updates and revisions (and editions) are aimed at reducing the abusability of the system. In this instance, what you would [i]like[/i] done and what someone else [i]can[/i] do are entirely different things. For instance, I had few problems with 2E, mostly because my friends and I understood the spirit of the designer's intentions and stuck true to it. However, that doesn't mean 2E didn't have problems just because most of the abuses were based on mechanical min/max methods used by people that didn't give spit about the spirit of the rules. If 3E is to hold to its purpose as an edition (lack of abusability), than what [i]can[/i] be done must have priority in determining the balance of anything, regardless of what those who appreciate such spirit would want. Trust me, I [i]wish[/i] it was the other way, but we live in a world of lawyers and people who try to get away with everything they think they can, and the word of the laws (or rules) hold the higher place over the intention regardless of how noble those intentions are or were. After all, isn't the PC obtainment of Prestige Classes as a [i]general right[/i] rather than a campaign-defining event contrary to the spirit of Prestige Classes to begin with? Yet there are plenty of players that would refuse to play in a game unless they were free to obtain what-ever Prestige Class (or magic item, or spell, or anything else) they want (and often unfairly ripping on those who would say otherwise). And remember that Prestige Classes are supposedly being "redefined" in 3.5; Sometimes that makes me shudder. [/QUOTE]
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