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<blockquote data-quote="Technik4" data-source="post: 1079309" data-attributes="member: 7211"><p>The only time you will really feel "overpowered" in a group is if there is a single-class dedicated wiz/sor and a single-class dedicated clr/drd. Both of these people may feel you are getting "the best of both worlds" and you are stepping on their toes too much. In a party without those single-classers, or in a party with multiclassed characters, the mystic theurge slips right in. As you pointed out, a theurge gives up quite a bit to have so many spells. </p><p></p><p>You forgot to mention that any domain abilities as a cleric would be weaker (Death Domain, Protection Domain, Sun Domain, etc).</p><p></p><p>You also forgot that your familiar will not be nearly as powerful as it should be in terms of abilities, but it may end up with more hp overall (trade-off).</p><p></p><p>Furthermore a single class spellcaster can often stack prcs (DM willing), creating a Red Wizard/Archmage or Candle Caster/Exorcist. A theurge has invested so much in "mastering" both arcane and divine magic that she can scarcely afford to enter a prc (and not until theurge has been maxed, meaning min 16th level). Furthermore a single-classer can afford a prc where they may not gain casting levels evey level (Eldritch Knight? See also: Tome and Blood) and to a theurge those spellcasting levels are even more critical.</p><p></p><p>Finally while one may dare to make a drow wizard or a half-dragon cleric, you would have to be bonkers to try a theurge with an ECL of more than 1 (and even 1 hurts).</p><p></p><p>Technik</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Technik4, post: 1079309, member: 7211"] The only time you will really feel "overpowered" in a group is if there is a single-class dedicated wiz/sor and a single-class dedicated clr/drd. Both of these people may feel you are getting "the best of both worlds" and you are stepping on their toes too much. In a party without those single-classers, or in a party with multiclassed characters, the mystic theurge slips right in. As you pointed out, a theurge gives up quite a bit to have so many spells. You forgot to mention that any domain abilities as a cleric would be weaker (Death Domain, Protection Domain, Sun Domain, etc). You also forgot that your familiar will not be nearly as powerful as it should be in terms of abilities, but it may end up with more hp overall (trade-off). Furthermore a single class spellcaster can often stack prcs (DM willing), creating a Red Wizard/Archmage or Candle Caster/Exorcist. A theurge has invested so much in "mastering" both arcane and divine magic that she can scarcely afford to enter a prc (and not until theurge has been maxed, meaning min 16th level). Furthermore a single-classer can afford a prc where they may not gain casting levels evey level (Eldritch Knight? See also: Tome and Blood) and to a theurge those spellcasting levels are even more critical. Finally while one may dare to make a drow wizard or a half-dragon cleric, you would have to be bonkers to try a theurge with an ECL of more than 1 (and even 1 hurts). Technik [/QUOTE]
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