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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 8072901" data-attributes="member: 83242">Listen we disagree and that is ok.  I have not spoken to a writer, but I don't need to. It is clear, to me, it is written in the book. I will make on last post about this, just to help you out.  From MOoT:"Mythic MonstersThis section describes three of Theros’s most infamous terrors, beings whose might and dreadful deeds set them apart as menaces of legendary proportions. While many of Theros’s greatest myths arise from storied terrors—like the hydra Polukranos or the dreaded titans—the monsters in this section have a feature that sets them apart: mythic traits. Mythic traits transform battles into truly legendary confrontations, well suited to the climactic battles at the ends of adventures or whole campaigns. Mythic traits are optional; they don’t need to be used during combat with these monsters. If you so choose, you may simply ignore a monster’s mythic trait and mythic actions. If you wish to increase a battle’s stakes, though, using a monster’s mythic trait results in some mid-battle twist that changes the way the monster behaves, restores its resources, or provides it with new actions to use. As a result, the battle becomes deadlier and rages on for longer than most combat encounters. Each monster features an “As a Mythic Encounter” section that highlights its mythic trait, notes how using it changes the difficulty of the encounter and the rewards, and includes read-aloud text you can use mid-battle to signal a terrifying shift in the conflict. "From this passage a few things are clear to me:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Mythic traits are special and specific (specific beats general).  These are features specific and unique to mythic monsters, it "sets them apart."</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Additionally, the trait restores resources, among other things, with the intent of...</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The traits are intended to make the battle "deadlier" and "longer."</li> </ul>I don't need to guess the intent - it is right there in writting.Additionally, each monster gets an "...as a Mythic Encounter" section in its monster entry.  Here is Hythonia's:"Hythonia as a Mythic EncounterHythonia serves as a potent threat against even high-level characters, but you can increase the challenge by using the Shed Skin trait. When this happens, Hythonia heals many of her wounds and slips away from danger, and then she can choose one of her mythic actions when she uses a legendary action."...Fighting Hythonia as a mythic encounter is equivalent to taking on two challenge rating 17 creatures in one encounter. Award a party 36,000 XP for defeating Hythonia after she uses Shed Skin."From this text is clear that:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The mythic trait is intended to "increase the challenge."</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Hythonia recovers from damage: "heals her wounds."</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The intent is that it is "equivalent" to two CR 17 monsters. And worth 2x the XP.</li> </ul>Again, I don't need to guess the intent, it is right there in the rules of the book in black and white.  So I ask you:  how would you adjudicate chill touch when the mythic trait specifically tells you Hythonia heals her wounds and it increases the challenge of the encounter?  Do you really think the intent is unclear or are just arguing that they could have been more explicit? I don't rule it at all as none of my PCs have the cantrip.  However, I would allow it to negate the trolls regeneration.  A troll is not a unique and special monster like mythic monsters are.</blockquote>

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