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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jay Verkuilen" data-source="post: 7764575" data-attributes="member: 6873517">What does "trained" mean? If one means "learned the craft implied by the class" then I'd say Conan trained as a Rogue in his time as a thief, or at least he could have. He did it by doing it and largely self-trained, which is something many people do in real life all the time. I totally get that someone who has the general job of thief doesn't actually have to have Rogue levels. No argument from me there at all. Inevitably the system will push a character's build so a lot of the reason I like Rogue for him is because (a) he was a thief for a while in the stories and (b) the Rogue abilities really help boost up some of the things that he's clearly really good at in the fiction without having to jack his stats super high across the board. In addition, he clearly studied things like languages and history, especially later on in his career around when he becomes King of Aquilonia. Most of his career he seems to be operating as a Fighter---pirate, leader of a Free Company, etc., all fit squarely in the Fighter idiom and in 5E one would simply take Fighter levels. It's possible to do these things and have other classes, but the path of least resistance IMO is Fighter for most of his levels, in terms of the abilities the character exhibits.</blockquote>