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<blockquote data-quote="TheCosmicKid" data-source="post: 7766828" data-attributes="member: 6683613"><p>That speech immediately precedes him revealing his identity and beginning the slaughter. The very next thing he does is give the kill signal to Telemachus. So if he is keeping up his disguise, describing himself as <em>xenos</em>, it is not for the purpose of continued deception but some other reason. As you say, there is much more going on here. A double meaning: he is still, with a hefty helping of irony, speaking as the old beggar, but he is also speaking as King Odysseus reasserting his power and authority.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Absolutely. Like I said, there are multiple meanings layered in the speech. But the line works <em>better</em> if one of the meanings is, in fact, that of physical strength, using the feat of bow-stringing as a metaphor for the more abstract strength that Odysseus is also asserting. And if it is against expectation because of the disguise, it is also against expectation because he has been absent, and aging, for two decades.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Kind of? When a woman poses a challenge for her hand in marriage, and the winner is her long-lost husband, it's kind of hard (in the ancient Greek women-as-possessions worldview) not to read that as him symbolically reclaiming her.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheCosmicKid, post: 7766828, member: 6683613"] That speech immediately precedes him revealing his identity and beginning the slaughter. The very next thing he does is give the kill signal to Telemachus. So if he is keeping up his disguise, describing himself as [I]xenos[/I], it is not for the purpose of continued deception but some other reason. As you say, there is much more going on here. A double meaning: he is still, with a hefty helping of irony, speaking as the old beggar, but he is also speaking as King Odysseus reasserting his power and authority. Absolutely. Like I said, there are multiple meanings layered in the speech. But the line works [I]better[/I] if one of the meanings is, in fact, that of physical strength, using the feat of bow-stringing as a metaphor for the more abstract strength that Odysseus is also asserting. And if it is against expectation because of the disguise, it is also against expectation because he has been absent, and aging, for two decades. Kind of? When a woman poses a challenge for her hand in marriage, and the winner is her long-lost husband, it's kind of hard (in the ancient Greek women-as-possessions worldview) not to read that as him symbolically reclaiming her. [/QUOTE]
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