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<blockquote data-quote="Mike Myler" data-source="post: 7785196" data-attributes="member: 6726030"><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I could not tell you for sure. It's a re-naming of the warlord from Mike Mearls. If you click the word "warmaster" it should take you to the ThinkDM blog where someone more fastidious than myself collected all of his bits and pieces into an archetype.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">This is a request column. People asked to see Saladin (and every one/thing else that appears in the column) built RAW so </span>¯\_(ツ)_/¯. </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 9px">Also eventually <em>everyone </em>will be myths or forgotten entirely, so while he's historical <em>now</em> he won't be forever.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">1) I'm not a linguist historian. Substitute whatever language would be most appropriate for dealing with the Crusaders at the time (...Latin?) <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">2) Fast Learner (and indeed everything from the 'Genius' rogue archetype) is from the Mastermind rogue archetype, which I think Saladin definitely fits.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">3) I too would expect him not to stab anyone in the back. Doesn't mean he can't make the most out of an advantageous strike though. Moreover it's rogue baggage and less important for our purposes here than the other features granted by the mastermind archetype (which is not OGL btw, although the 'genius' <em>is</em> OGL, as are the re-worded mechanics of its mechanically-identical features).</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">4) Don't feel qualified to argue that aside from pointing out that it'd be awful weird for him not to have any experience commanding troops on the field, and while I'm not diverting my tasks today to confirm that, I'd be willing to wager that with some research we'll find that at times he probably did do that. Please refute if you have a source ready that says he never personally took part in any battles whatsoever (there certainly have been rulers that command armies after never having been in one </span><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">).</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">5) Not the English longbow, certainly not. There's a loooooooooooooot of stuff about the Turkish (composite) bow and while it's definitely mostly associated with the Ottoman Empire, the roots for it go way further back. </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Are you meaning to say you think Saladin and his forces should have shortbows, or just that they don't have the longbows most Western readers are going to associate with the other side of the Crusades?</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span>6) He's on the list and will be avoided for as long as possible. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>As always you are welcome. ^__^ Glad to <a href="https://media.giphy.com/media/3og0IMJcSI8p6hYQXS/giphy.gif" target="_blank">bring a bit of history</a> onto EN World! Also glad to see this is getting more traction than <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/content.php?5704-Mythological-Figures-Drona-(5E)" target="_blank">Drona</a> (who still has not a comment to his name).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mike Myler, post: 7785196, member: 6726030"] [FONT=Verdana][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]I could not tell you for sure. It's a re-naming of the warlord from Mike Mearls. If you click the word "warmaster" it should take you to the ThinkDM blog where someone more fastidious than myself collected all of his bits and pieces into an archetype.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][/FONT][FONT=Verdana] This is a request column. People asked to see Saladin (and every one/thing else that appears in the column) built RAW so [/FONT]¯\_(ツ)_/¯. [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=1]Also eventually [I]everyone [/I]will be myths or forgotten entirely, so while he's historical [I]now[/I] he won't be forever. [/SIZE] 1) I'm not a linguist historian. Substitute whatever language would be most appropriate for dealing with the Crusaders at the time (...Latin?) :) 2) Fast Learner (and indeed everything from the 'Genius' rogue archetype) is from the Mastermind rogue archetype, which I think Saladin definitely fits. 3) I too would expect him not to stab anyone in the back. Doesn't mean he can't make the most out of an advantageous strike though. Moreover it's rogue baggage and less important for our purposes here than the other features granted by the mastermind archetype (which is not OGL btw, although the 'genius' [I]is[/I] OGL, as are the re-worded mechanics of its mechanically-identical features). 4) Don't feel qualified to argue that aside from pointing out that it'd be awful weird for him not to have any experience commanding troops on the field, and while I'm not diverting my tasks today to confirm that, I'd be willing to wager that with some research we'll find that at times he probably did do that. Please refute if you have a source ready that says he never personally took part in any battles whatsoever (there certainly have been rulers that command armies after never having been in one [/FONT]:confused:[FONT=Verdana]). 5) Not the English longbow, certainly not. There's a loooooooooooooot of stuff about the Turkish (composite) bow and while it's definitely mostly associated with the Ottoman Empire, the roots for it go way further back. Are you meaning to say you think Saladin and his forces should have shortbows, or just that they don't have the longbows most Western readers are going to associate with the other side of the Crusades? [/FONT]6) He's on the list and will be avoided for as long as possible. :D As always you are welcome. ^__^ Glad to [URL="https://media.giphy.com/media/3og0IMJcSI8p6hYQXS/giphy.gif"]bring a bit of history[/URL] onto EN World! Also glad to see this is getting more traction than [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/content.php?5704-Mythological-Figures-Drona-(5E)"]Drona[/URL] (who still has not a comment to his name). [/QUOTE]
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